Dead Or Alive 6 Builds On Franchise's Core Strengths While Renewing Focus On Inclusivity

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Lulu

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Yeah I didn't even know Kasumi was a Teenager until Last Round... I thought she was she 21.... because thats a womenly Bodd. :eek:
 

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This is the same information we got an actual month ago. Not complaining or anything it's just funny to me how behind some game "Journalist" websites can be. TN sure has generated a lot of attention for DOA 6. Probably their intent.

Final product will be DOA 5LR with better graphics and the new Break mechanics.
 

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whats the FGC's issue with Fighting Games becoming more like E-Sports ?

There's pull back from "going eSports" because it takes away the focus and community from the grassroots scenes. eSports is generally looked at as "corporate" money and "corporate" run. In the past, as corporations started trying to get in, it took no advice from the existing grassroots scenes and typically bombed because of it (5 single round matches of DOA4 on top of a rope bridge?). Sad thing is that people don't realize eventually the scene will have to transition to invitation only and singular events, leaving the grassroots tournaments such as CEO, NEC, and Final Round to be used as "scouting sessions" for those invitationals. eSports is all about making stories to sell to viewers and get them interested in players. It's the reason things like SFvPL 13-0 was talked about and remembered more than any other event at that Summer Jam, and that's just one example.

This is false… DoA5 didn't have the breast motion setting, it was introduced with 5U. It also shouldn't be a “well-known mechanic” of the franchise, since no such option existed in DoA2,3 and 4 (there was something in DoA1 wasn't there?)… and the age setting didn't do anything either. Not even the DoAX games have this (well maybe X3 if you count the lotions)

While you're correct (sans DOA2's turning on/off based on your age being over/under 18), I think the more prevalent point is that it's an example of how the general audience of gamers see the game series. That mentality of "she kicks high" was ingrained deep, and is something at least the current team doesn't want associated with the series. I know it's difficult for some in the community to actually get an idea of just how small the existing community is compared to the potential community there could be.

from what I've seen Kasumi's chest at least looks the same but who knows,
Kasumis boobs are pretty much the same as they were in DOA5

Right, but to someone who is on the outside looking in, with their predefined notions that the game is just "A big titty fighter with no actual value, substance, or depth because when you market sex then it means you must not have much of anything else to market to." it helps open their eyes to the other things that already existed. It also is just marketing placebo in that someone who didn't actually play the previous iterations for 'reasons' can feel comfortable enough to give it another shot. I mean, these character meshes are basically straight out of DOA5 with no alterations, and most of the visual differences are due to the lighting system more than any idea to alter Kasumi's bust to look like 86 cm instead of 89 cm.
 

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Hmmmmm....

That does sound less than ideal... I just hope it workw for all parties involved... naive is that may be.
 

Cadaveri

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@ the girls' breasts being smaller, them having more fit, teenge bodies and their costumes being more practical and less fetishized:

I don't know what is funnier, Koei Tecmo actually thinking they can trick people by saying all this stuff, while showing us the direct opposite, or people actually believing them, while seeing what is shown, and them making a huge fuss over it.


You don't actually need to even look very closely to see a big difference in Helena's size (granted can't say same for Kasumi).
But the size nerfs are happening believe it or not o_O
 

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You don't actually need to even look very closely to see a big difference in Helena's size (granted can't say same for Kasumi).
But the size nerfs are happening believe it or not o_O
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@ the girls' breasts being smaller, them having more fit, teenge bodies and their costumes being more practical and less fetishized:

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Look at Kasumi, her chest is just as unnaturally big as in DOA5. They probably mean not as huge melons as in DOAX3? That's right.
Look at her character render, she has the exact same body type she had in DOA 5. She doesn't look any fitter or more like a teenager either.
Look at both Kasumi's and Helena's costumes, they are no more practical or less sexualized than characters' default costumes were in DOA5. Here they are either still super tight (Kasumi) or revealing plenty of skin (Helena). Especially Kasumi's suit is as sexualized as it can possibly be, super tight and with tiny armor bits that barely cover her chest and crotch. The way it is designed is to especially accentuate and sexualize the female body form. Her black DOA5 suit was less sexualized.

I don't know what is funnier, Koei Tecmo actually thinking they can trick people by saying all this stuff, while showing us the direct opposite, or people actually believing them, while seeing what is shown, and them making a huge fuss over it.

Considering people are flipping out in DOA Reddit about it tells you otherwise...
And I can say without a doubt the same thing is happening in GameFAQs.
 

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Just looks like she has a bra on under a really tight modest outfit to me.
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And man does Helena look so small. Like an A cup. Totally downgraded. Meanwhile they have Kasumi in an outfit that shows absolutely no cleavage and the result is her appearing to be much much smaller than usual because when have they ever shown Kasumi off in early footage without her iconic puppy showing blue gi.
 
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I don't really think they made the breasts smaller tbh, people thought that was the case in DOA5 but the game devs just made the girls more realistically proportioned unlike DOA4 and backwards. And its a known observation that in DOA5 some costumes make the boobs seem or look larger or smaller, like if you look at Kasumi's violet bikini and compare it to her Mandarin DLC dress, they do seem slightly smallet but more or so since they seem to slightly droop a bit in the violet bikini.

I think TN is just saying that and leaving out how they'll add breast jiggle so the boobs and sex appeal won't be the main point when they start making more reveals which is smart imo although it's obvious the girl's bodies hardly changed xD they're just wearing more clothing and Kasumi's armor seems to compress her chest a bit to make them seem smaller
 

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I don't really think they made the breasts smaller tbh, people thought that was the case in DOA5 but the game devs just made the girls more realistically proportioned unlike DOA4 and backwards. And its a known observation that in DOA5 some costumes make the boobs seem or look larger or smaller, like if you look at Kasumi's violet bikini and compare it to her Mandarin DLC dress, they do seem slightly smallet but more or so since they seem to slightly droop a bit in the violet bikini.

I think TN is just saying that and leaving out how they'll add breast jiggle so the boobs and sex appeal won't be the main point when they start making more reveals which is smart imo although it's obvious the girl's bodies hardly changed xD they're just wearing more clothing and Kasumi's armor seems to compress her chest a bit to make them seem smaller
This is exactly it. A compressing armored top with a matte non glossy black under layer that is completely modest and gives her a smooth almost flat chested look no matter the lighting from the front.
 

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This is exactly it. A compressing armored top with a matte non glossy black under layer that is completely modest and gives her a smooth almost flat chested look no matter the lighting from the front.
But watch the boycotting accounts on Twitter blow that out of proportion and complain even more because the boobs got "smaller" and there's "no more jiggle" and the "girls are getting abused and TN is encouraging abuse" xD

@Helena Douglas DOATEC I'm sorry but I can't accept that petition, Shimbori isnt a female firstly, and he isn't turning his back on the game or trying to please "feminism" ideals. He's just maturing the game up, it's still the same. In fact feminists are gonna complain anyway since now they think the game devs are promoting abuse. Making a petition also isn't going to change anything unfortunately
 
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Hello there! I'm new. Well, you know, the people hates the new system of DOA6, and heres a petition, please guys read this:

https://www.change.org/p/dead-or-alive-6-must-listen-to-their-fans-dead-or-alive-6-debe-escuchar-a-sus-fanáticos

So, what do you think?
Please don't with this. I've seen enough of you the once in a while that I glance at Twitter. @KasumiLover69 Please don't engage them in conversation they must have gotten bored trying to harass TN on their official Twitter and come here.
 

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The petition asks that the intensity of DOA be respected and loved

"FINALLY OUR MISSION IS THAT ALL THE COMPANIES OF VIDEO GAMES DARE TO DREAM, TO RISK, IMAGINE AND NOT LET THEMSELVES BE INTIMIDED BY HIPÓCRITAS AND RESENTED GROUPS LIKE THE FEMINISTS. WE WANT THAT THE VIDEO GAMES AS WELL AS ANY OTHER MEANS OF ENTERTAINMENT ARE CAPABLE OF BEING FIRM AND FAITHFUL TO YOUR IDEAS, BECAUSE THERE IS A PUBLIC THAT LOVES AND RESPECTS ITS ORIGINAL IDEAS."

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Don't let dem HIPÓCRITAS steal our bewbz! D:
 
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Please don't with this. I've seen enough of you the once in a while that I glance at Twitter. @KasumiLover69 Please don't engage them in conversation they must have gotten bored trying to harass TN on their official Twitter and come here.
Well. If I have offended or bothered you, I offer you an apology. It is not my intention to disturb anyone. My intention is for people to reflect a little.
 
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