Raansu
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I mean, plasticy hair on fairly detailed character models does look a little....tacky, but ya I get what you mean.
Lets talk about redesigns
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I mean, plasticy hair on fairly detailed character models does look a little....tacky, but ya I get what you mean.
juliusxcix
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i dont understand why people say this. why wouldnt you want extra content. youre getting MORE characters MORE outfits MORE stages. instead, people find a reason to complain.
Cuz you have to pay for it...
Back in the past, perhaps before some of you were born, games in general had to be completed before being released out into the general public. If they were not completed then there were dire consequences for publishers and developers alike if people paid full price for broken glitchy shit. It(rightfully) spelled the doom of your company if your Q.C. was ass.
I believe it was brute or someone else who pointed out that the move-sets for characters were not being redone from scratch and majority of whats being seen has been mostly cosmetic and game mechanic changes, which means there is no real excuse to do the season pass bullshit at all. I would rather wait for a game that's done than to pay more over time for a game that isn't..and make no mistake that's all the season pricing scheme is. Companies are trying to compel you to pay more for some shit that isn't finished yet
It all started with Expansion packs. No one saw the future then. So young. So innocent. The Sims were some of the first offenders. Everquest, Blizzard. Some could argue Capcom started it in the fighting game genre with Street Fighter. You can argue that these examples are all complete games that had content added on optionally for a cost, or entirely new title releases in SF's case, but it began the downward trend. DLC was an inevitable future.
Raansu
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Sure, for like several thousand dollars. I don't personally have a problem with DLC, but I do think most of it in almost every game is over priced.
Also, back in the day, games were actually launched as complete products and general had much more content than the bare bone games we get today. Fighters were a little different, but those were really just arcade games being ported over. A $30 expansion pack in the late 90's and early 2000's had more content loaded into it than a $30 season pass in today's gaming world that trickles small dlc content your way.
DLC in itself isn't bad, but the way its treated is pretty horrendous. Most games now launch incomplete and most DLC is over priced and lacking in deep content.
juliusxcix
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its... optional. its extra content. to support the game post launch otherwise people will play for 12 days then drop it.
People forget that in the era of fighting games, you generally didn't have "upgrades" on the consoles. You'd just have to take which ever version you got on which ever system you owned. It was never arcade perfect, you were paying $60-80 for the cartridge, rarely ever got all of the fidelity or balance in it, and you were stuck with it. For example, if you had a genesis you'd have Champion Edition and Super Street Fighter II, but you wouldn't get Hyper Fighting or Super Street Fighter II Turbo. SNES got SF2 World Warrior and Hyper Fighting. Each was full price of $60 to $80, there was no shared data across it, and tricks, cheats, unlocks, and others weren't the same across versions either.
Today, you're able to purchase a game for at most $60 for the core gameplay on either/any console/hardware, and be able to update bug fixes, balance, and others on the fly for free. So you can get the game sooner with less risk to the publisher to having a game breaking and typically financially devastating bug. The caveat to this style is it lead to situations like the "Early Access" movement, which is just a more egregious form where you're buying in during Alpha period in the hopes of what might come down the pipe. Games cost a lot of money. Heck, in my own game we don't even have two fully playable characters and it's cost my team between $50,000 to 75,000 so far. I can only dream that if I were to release it that i'd get 1,000 purchasers, and that's if I priced it at $60, which people would say is absurd for an "indie" game.
Wolfenstein and DOOM had expansion packs before other games as well.
Today, you're able to purchase a game for at most $60 for the core gameplay on either/any console/hardware, and be able to update bug fixes, balance, and others on the fly for free. So you can get the game sooner with less risk to the publisher to having a game breaking and typically financially devastating bug. The caveat to this style is it lead to situations like the "Early Access" movement, which is just a more egregious form where you're buying in during Alpha period in the hopes of what might come down the pipe. Games cost a lot of money. Heck, in my own game we don't even have two fully playable characters and it's cost my team between $50,000 to 75,000 so far. I can only dream that if I were to release it that i'd get 1,000 purchasers, and that's if I priced it at $60, which people would say is absurd for an "indie" game.
Wolfenstein and DOOM had expansion packs before other games as well.
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The official DOA6 Twitter account now retweeted an older Kotaku article (https://kotaku.com/dead-or-alive-6-is-less-sexualized-and-more-esports-1828107279) about the game being "less sexualized and more Esports".
Please stop quoting these kinds of articles or doing the damage control attempting interviews. Show everyone that DOA is still DOA on Gamescom with a brand new demo, flashy game trailer and additionally a character trailer introducing fan favorites Hitomi and Leifang. Show the game and characters looking cool and sexy at the same time. Persuade fans and newcomers with facts. And already put the darn "physics" in, noticable but natural, if they are going to be in the game at some point anyway.
Sure, all of that would still leave a radical and insatiable group of fans untouched, but it would weaken their already small numbers and take away what little attack surface they have on DOA6. It would at least not poke them any more than necessary...
Please stop quoting these kinds of articles or doing the damage control attempting interviews. Show everyone that DOA is still DOA on Gamescom with a brand new demo, flashy game trailer and additionally a character trailer introducing fan favorites Hitomi and Leifang. Show the game and characters looking cool and sexy at the same time. Persuade fans and newcomers with facts. And already put the darn "physics" in, noticable but natural, if they are going to be in the game at some point anyway.
Sure, all of that would still leave a radical and insatiable group of fans untouched, but it would weaken their already small numbers and take away what little attack surface they have on DOA6. It would at least not poke them any more than necessary...
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Anyone with functioning eyes could see that on the many hours of DOA6 gameplay footage from EVO though. The game looks as nervous as before and the beautiful and attractive characters are still here.
And I have no problem with them quoting that article tbh. That means they're confident in what they're doing and that's great.
Let the complainers complain, who cares !
Raansu
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The official DOA6 Twitter account now retweeted an older Kotaku article (https://kotaku.com/dead-or-alive-6-is-less-sexualized-and-more-esports-1828107279) about the game being "less sexualized and more Esports".
Please stop quoting these kinds of articles or doing the damage control attempting interviews. Show everyone that DOA is still DOA on Gamescom with a brand new demo, flashy game trailer and additionally a character trailer introducing fan favorites Hitomi and Leifang. Show the game and characters looking cool and sexy at the same time. Persuade fans and newcomers with facts. And already put the darn "physics" in, noticable but natural, if they are going to be in the game at some point anyway.
Sure, all of that would still leave a radical and insatiable group of fans untouched, but it would weaken their already small numbers and take away what little attack surface they have on DOA6. It would at least not poke them any more than necessary...
From what was shown at EVO, DoA6 is still very much DoA. I saw nothing that would show otherwise.
I'm pretty sure the color swaps are just there as placeholders. They will probably remain in the main game, but I'm willing to bet its current purpose is just that. We had a decent amount of costumes for 5 at launch, I can't imagine DoA6 not having most of the same.
Oh it's still DOA lmao
I think that the problem with quoting an article with that headline in particular + from Kotaku especially is that it only further confirms the '' anti fanservice '' thing in the minds of people who have that issue.
It's honestly a quite dumb and tonedeaf move.
It's just stirring the hornets nest for no real reason.
And it's also irritating even to a great deal of people who aren't as rabid about it but are just both tired of it and/ or do care just not to the same extent and are tired of being reminded of it and having it repeatedly thrown in our face.
Not all PR is good PR, and perhaps it's best to lie low with that stuff for the time being.
Why stirr the hornets nest up and cause a bunch of negativity for no reason.
The negativity also spreads and infects everything and everyone else.
It's just unnecessary.
When it comes to Ayane
I hope that they give her the Ninja Gaiden 3 costume, or don't redesign her at all ( I really want her Ninja Gaiden 3 costume tho ).
I just hope that it isn't a boring bodysuit like Kasumi.
I like the '' wings '' especially, looks way better than her DoA5 one imo.
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KnacKrover
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It's really describes her personality and violet color scheme which is I like that...I like that alot!
Jadeinchains
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Gamescom is so close yet feels so far away! It's like 5 days left now until we finally get to see Leifang and Hitomi.
Derock
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BOLD: Actually, Hyper Fighting was on Genesis. It was included in Street Fighter II: Special Championship Edition, merging 2 game updates into one because of the deal with SEGA and Capcom back in the day (also trying to outdo Nintendo which released both The World Warriors and Turbo/Hyper Fighting)
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https://twitter.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/1029669548805562368?s=19
Pretty sure KT Europe doesn't have that kind of authority, but hum... interesting proposition. I'm not a fan of Monster Rancher thought!
Pretty sure KT Europe doesn't have that kind of authority, but hum... interesting proposition. I'm not a fan of Monster Rancher thought!
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