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Atahotaku

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I've been taking a look to the screenshots of the command list of Tina from the DOA Fest build, and I've compared them to the list from LR in the wikia. There aren't any new strings from what I could see, but there are some new throws. I can't read kanji, so this is just mere speculation via commands comparisons. I've marked what I'm sure is a new move in green, and those I'm not so sure of in yellow:

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Not sure about the first one in yellow, it seems like an "against the wall" version or something like that. Wasn't sure if it was already in LR, but I haven't seen it in the wikia. The 63214T one could be the second throw Tina does in the trailer against Bass. Maybe the yellow one is the first one against the ropes?

And for the last two yellow ones, I can't read the specifications. Maybe 2 throws while she's down in the floor?

Hope you guys bring some light to this thread. Be free to comment about anything regarding her gameplay :D


P.D: Also, Burning Hammer (1P+K) is gone.
 
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Dr PaC

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Im hoping she'll have a new string as well. Or more command grab options from existing strings, like what they did with Lisa
 
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GarryJaune

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Atahotaku said:
I've been taking a look to the screenshots of the command list of Tina from the DOA Fest build, and I've compared them to the list from LR in the wikia. There aren't any new strings from what I could see, but there are some new throws. I can't read kanji, so this is just mere speculation via commands comparisons. I've marked what I'm sure is a new move in green, and those I'm not so sure of in yellow:

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Not sure about the first one in yellow, it seems like an "against the wall" version or something like that. Wasn't sure if it was already in LR, but I haven't seen it in the wikia. The 63214T one could be the second throw Tina does in the trailer against Bass. Maybe the yellow one is the first one against the ropes?

And for the last two yellow ones, I can't read the specifications. Maybe 2 throws while she's down in the floor?

Hope you guys bring some light to this thread. Be free to comment about anything regarding her gameplay :D


P.D: Also, Burning Hammer (1P+K) is gone.
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1.close to a wall
2.opponent heads down(in air)，anyway it's just a new air throw animation,I think it's pretty cool,because well it was kinda wired in DOA5 that you hit them a bounce juggle like P+K and using same air throw animation with normal juggle like 33K
 
Lulu

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I just want more throws. Not even offensive holds just more types of throws and less throws that do similar things... thats what really bugged me about Tina... some of her Throws were Redundant... like :2::T: and :1::T:... yeah one is 1 Frame Faster and The other has more guaranteed damage up front... but they were way too similar in function and purpose... they should axe one of them and replace its command with Tiger/Texas Explosion (:3::3::T:)
 
GarryJaune

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Lulu said:
I just want more throws. Not even offensive holds just more types of throws and less throws that do similar things... thats what really bugged me about Tina... some of her Throws were Redundant... like :2::T: and :1::T:... yeah one is 1 Frame Faster and The other has more guaranteed damage up front... but they were way too similar in function and purpose... they should axe one of them and replace its command with Tiger/Texas Explosion (:3::3::T:)
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well players ain't fool,they just pick the best choice,in fact in DOA5U,Tina had only 3 best stand throws,4T、6T series and J.O.S,4T had a pseudo guarantee ground 2T which made it the best 8F throw in DOA5U,what's more,this 4T could be used as a painful reset throw.
In DOA5LR,Tina got a big nerf in 4T so she only got 2 best left,it's kinda ironical，she suppose to be a graber but her stand throw punish even worse than Hitomi.
Think about it,she has a 66T OH that guarantees a ground 2T,why would she ever use that unsafe 46T OH lol
I don't think DOA6 gonna fix this tho;)
 
Lulu

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GarryJaune said:
Think about it,she has a 66T OH that guarantees a ground 2T,why would she ever use that unsafe 46T OH lol
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Yeah that grab was Super Slow... you could use it as a dirty reset to chuck someone into a Dangerzone but that a highly situational scenario...

This is why I love Rachel... shes got WAAAAAAAAAAY fewer Throws but all of them are practical and useful and none of them infringe on other throw's purpose/properties.... Tina just doesn't have that... more importantly all her good throws are just harder to do... like The one I mentioned earlier and MDT... and even her Giant Swing.


GarryJaune said:
I don't think DOA6 gonna fix this tho;)
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Thats a shame... because I really wanted a complete Overhaul over her throw game plan.

Oh well... atleast we have Nyotengu !!! :D shes basically Anime Tina.
 
GarryJaune

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Lulu said:
Yeah that grab was Super Slow... you could use it as a dirty reset to chuck someone into a Dangerzone but that a highly situational scenario...

This is why I love Rachel... shes got WAAAAAAAAAAY fewer Throws but all of them are practical and useful and none of them infringe on other throw's purpose/properties.... Tina just doesn't have that... more importantly all her good throws are just harder to do... like The one I mentioned earlier and MDT... and even her Giant Swing.




Thats a shame... because I really wanted a complete Overhaul over her throw game plan.

Oh well... atleast we have Nyotengu !!! :D shes basically Anime Tina.
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The fun part is,Tina's 4K,a mediocre mid kick also extremely nerfed in DOA5LR.

TN：Don‘t play Tina in DOA5LR(shout out for Killy,he IS a god)

Oh,urhh~I don't think Tengu&Tina 's fighting methods(in technique level) have any similarity,but character design may have some tho lol.

We love mature women:thumbs up:,NOT anime loli:rolleyes:
 
Lulu

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GarryJaune said:
Oh,urhh~I don't think Tengu&Tina 's fighting methods(in technique level) have any similarity,but character design may have some tho lol.
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You're right, they don't.... but I wish they did alil.


GarryJaune said:
We love mature women:thumbs up:,NOT anime loli
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Thats the most anoying thing about Anime Fighting Games... too many god damn teenagers !!!

Although this one looks even Younger: :eek:
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Apparently she's part boy too.
 
GarryJaune

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Lulu said:
You're right, they don't.... but I wish they did alil.




Thats the most anoying thing about Anime Fighting Games... too many god damn teenagers !!!

Although this one looks even Younger: :eek:
BBCF_Platinum_Portrait.png

Apparently she's part boy too.
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oh shit.....I challenge my memory，this is a BLAZBLUE character:eek:.

I'm not a big fan of anime loli,or any cute girl with a big cock lol
 
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cortez2122

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Hey everyone, I found this on a website. I think their's some new Tina throws besides the one in her trailer. Sorry I don't post often. But I dont know if anyone can confirm or breakdown any of the screenshots, besides the ones previously posted?
 

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Atahotaku

Atahotaku

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cortez2122 said:
Hey everyone, I found this on a website. I think their's some new Tina throws besides the one in her trailer. Sorry I don't post often. But I dont know if anyone can confirm or breakdown any of the screenshots, besides the ones previously posted?
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Same site i've already visited. She has 3 or 4 new throws:
STRINGS
Machine Gun Elbow Knee 5PPPK

Dolphin Spike 5PP6P

Southern Punisher 5PPKP

Spinning Backhand Combo 5PKP

Double Toppler Combo 5PKK

Infinity Combo 6PPP

Spin Knuckle Combo 6PP2P

Ultimate Combo 6PPK

Ultimate Step In 6PP6K

Low Drop Combo 6PP2K

Neck Lasso 6PPP+K

Turn Hop Kick 6PK [SP]

Stun Gun Chop 4PPP(CHARGEABLE)

Blazing Chop 8P

Triple Elbow 9PPP

Back Elbow Knee 9PK

Saddle Crash 7PPP

Western Rush 7PP6P

Low Knuckle 2P

Double Blow 3PP

Vertical Hammer 3(HOLD)PP

Low Spin Knuckle 1P

Triple Wrangler 66PPP

Combo Drop Kick 66PPK

Wrangler Slide 66PP2K

Discus Clothesline 66PPP+K

Shoulder Tackle 46P

Cattle Drive 44PK

Surprise Low Drop Kick 44P2K

Dolphin Uppercut 33P

Leaping Elbow 236P

Double Hammer 214P

Backhand Crash 5KP

Ankle Spin Kick 5KK

Crash Knee 6K

Spinning Jump Kick 4K [SP]

Drop Kick 8K

Step Kick 9K

Enzui-Giri 7K

Low Kick Upper Combo 2KP

Double Submarine 2(HOLD)KKK

Mid Kick Hook 3KP

Double Middle Kick 3KK

Leg Cut 1K

Front Step Kick 66K

Knee Hammer 33KP

Arrow Kick 236K

Rolling Elbow 5P+K

Short Range Lariat 6P+K

Moonsault Press 4P+K

Moonsault Feint 4P+KH [SP]

Front Roll Elbow 2P+KP

Wagon Wheel 2P+KK

Jumping Hip Attack 66P+K

Dancing Doll Kick H+K

Front Roll Kick 6H+K

Low Drop Kick 2H+K

Moves gone: Burning Hammer, Ultra Tina Special (Power Blow) and Eagle Kick (Power Launcher)

THROWS

Death Valley Bomb 5T

G.T.S 5T (Counter Strike or Hi Counter Strike)

Texas Driver 6T.2T

Emerald Flowsion 6T.44T

Bolt Suplex 4T

Face Smasher 4T(against a wall)

Frankensteiner 8T [OH]

Rodeo Hold 66T [OH]

Sky Twister Press 64T.2T.8T

Push 64T.6T

J.O.Cyclone 3(HOLD).64T

M.D.T 3(HOLD).64T (Counter Strike or Hi Counter Strike)

Burst Cyclone 3(HOLD).64T (against a wall)

Hammer J.O.S 44T.T

Burst J.O.S 44T (against a wall)

Rope Push Slam 44T (against the ropes)

Giant Swing 46T(HOLDABLE)T.41236T [OH]

J.O.S 214T.6T.8T

Spinal Drop Kick 214T.236T

Fisherman’s Buster 41236T

41236T (against the wall) [NEW?]

63214T [NEW?]

Head Cutter 5PK.T

Diamond Cutter 6PP6K.T

Buffalo Lasso 7PPT

Head Cutter K.T

Diamond Cutter 6K.T

Dragon Suplex 66T.T (opponent back turned) [OH]

German Suplex Whip 6T (opponent back turned)

Reverse M.D.T 41236T (opponent back turned)

Double Break 5T.T (opponent back turned)

Burst Suplex 5T (against the wall with opponent back turned

Turning Ankle Cracker 5T (back to back)

Neck Crusher 2T (opponent back turned while chrouching)

Shining Wizard T (while running)

Turning Leg Breaker 5T (Back turned)

Overhead Toss 8T(Back turned) [OH]

Transecting Leg Lock 2T.2T (against crouching opponent)

Exploder 1T(against crouching opponent)

Texas Explosion 33T(against crouching opponent)

Japanese Ocean Bomb 3T (against crouching opponent)

Tiger Driver 33T.2T (Counter Strike or Hi Counter Strike)

Backbone Crusher 33T(against the wall, Counter Strike or Hi Counter Strike)

Achilles Grab 2T (to feet of downed foe facing up)

Figure Four Neck Lock 2T (to head of downed foe facing up)

Stranglehold 2T (to size of downed foe facing up)

Romero Special 2T (to feet of downed foe facing down)

Double Arm Pile Driver 2T (to head of downed foe facing down)

Bow and Arrow 2T (to size of downed foe facing down)

5T (to foe in the air with head down?) [NEW?]

4T (to foe in the air with head down?) [NEW?]

Cross Spiral Bomb 5T (to foe in the air)

The Slasher 4T (to foe in the air)

Air Swing Toss 41236T (to foe in the air)

Throws gone: Wall Slam
 
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cortez2122

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Atahotaku said:
Same site i've already visited. She has 3 or 4 new throws:
STRINGS
Machine Gun Elbow Knee 5PPPK

Dolphin Spike 5PP6P

Southern Punisher 5PPKP

Spinning Backhand Combo 5PKP

Double Toppler Combo 5PKK

Infinity Combo 6PPP

Spin Knuckle Combo 6PP2P

Ultimate Combo 6PPK

Ultimate Step In 6PP6K

Low Drop Combo 6PP2K

Neck Lasso 6PPP+K

Turn Hop Kick 6PK [SP]

Stun Gun Chop 4PPP(CHARGEABLE)

Blazing Chop 8P

Triple Elbow 9PPP

Back Elbow Knee 9PK

Saddle Crash 7PPP

Western Rush 7PP6P

Low Knuckle 2P

Double Blow 3PP

Vertical Hammer 3(HOLD)PP

Low Spin Knuckle 1P

Triple Wrangler 66PPP

Combo Drop Kick 66PPK

Wrangler Slide 66PP2K

Discus Clothesline 66PPP+K

Shoulder Tackle 46P

Cattle Drive 44PK

Surprise Low Drop Kick 44P2K

Dolphin Uppercut 33P

Leaping Elbow 236P

Double Hammer 214P

Backhand Crash 5KP

Ankle Spin Kick 5KK

Crash Knee 6K

Spinning Jump Kick 4K [SP]

Drop Kick 8K

Step Kick 9K

Enzui-Giri 7K

Low Kick Upper Combo 2KP

Double Submarine 2(HOLD)KKK

Mid Kick Hook 3KP

Double Middle Kick 3KK

Leg Cut 1K

Front Step Kick 66K

Knee Hammer 33KP

Arrow Kick 236K

Rolling Elbow 5P+K

Short Range Lariat 6P+K

Moonsault Press 4P+K

Moonsault Feint 4P+KH [SP]

Front Roll Elbow 2P+KP

Wagon Wheel 2P+KK

Jumping Hip Attack 66P+K

Dancing Doll Kick H+K

Front Roll Kick 6H+K

Low Drop Kick 2H+K

Moves gone: Burning Hammer, Ultra Tina Special (Power Blow) and Eagle Kick (Power Launcher)

THROWS

Death Valley Bomb 5T

G.T.S 5T (Counter Strike or Hi Counter Strike)

Texas Driver 6T.2T

Emerald Flowsion 6T.44T

Bolt Suplex 4T

Face Smasher 4T(against a wall)

Frankensteiner 8T [OH]

Rodeo Hold 66T [OH]

Sky Twister Press 64T.2T.8T

Push 64T.6T

J.O.Cyclone 3(HOLD).64T

M.D.T 3(HOLD).64T (Counter Strike or Hi Counter Strike)

Burst Cyclone 3(HOLD).64T (against a wall)

Hammer J.O.S 44T.T

Burst J.O.S 44T (against a wall)

Rope Push Slam 44T (against the ropes)

Giant Swing 46T(HOLDABLE)T.41236T [OH]

J.O.S 214T.6T.8T

Spinal Drop Kick 214T.236T

Fisherman’s Buster 41236T

41236T (against the wall) [NEW?]

63214T [NEW?]

Head Cutter 5PK.T

Diamond Cutter 6PP6K.T

Buffalo Lasso 7PPT

Head Cutter K.T

Diamond Cutter 6K.T

Dragon Suplex 66T.T (opponent back turned) [OH]

German Suplex Whip 6T (opponent back turned)

Reverse M.D.T 41236T (opponent back turned)

Double Break 5T.T (opponent back turned)

Burst Suplex 5T (against the wall with opponent back turned

Turning Ankle Cracker 5T (back to back)

Neck Crusher 2T (opponent back turned while chrouching)

Shining Wizard T (while running)

Turning Leg Breaker 5T (Back turned)

Overhead Toss 8T(Back turned) [OH]

Transecting Leg Lock 2T.2T (against crouching opponent)

Exploder 1T(against crouching opponent)

Texas Explosion 33T(against crouching opponent)

Japanese Ocean Bomb 3T (against crouching opponent)

Tiger Driver 33T.2T (Counter Strike or Hi Counter Strike)

Backbone Crusher 33T(against the wall, Counter Strike or Hi Counter Strike)

Achilles Grab 2T (to feet of downed foe facing up)

Figure Four Neck Lock 2T (to head of downed foe facing up)

Stranglehold 2T (to size of downed foe facing up)

Romero Special 2T (to feet of downed foe facing down)

Double Arm Pile Driver 2T (to head of downed foe facing down)

Bow and Arrow 2T (to size of downed foe facing down)

5T (to foe in the air with head down?) [NEW?]

4T (to foe in the air with head down?) [NEW?]

Cross Spiral Bomb 5T (to foe in the air)

The Slasher 4T (to foe in the air)

Air Swing Toss 41236T (to foe in the air)

Throws gone: Wall Slam
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Ah ok. I thought I count 60 moves as far as her throw count was concerned vs 50 in the last install. Although she has some slaps now. Kinda off for her.
 
GarryJaune

GarryJaune

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She needs a fast reset throw badly,any new throw without a reset function is useless

and shinning wizard's still a normal throw,lol still useless.
 
GarryJaune

GarryJaune

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Atahotaku said:
I've counted 55 vs 52 in Last Round.

As @GarryJaune said, I hope they give her some reset throws and make shinning wizard an OH.
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actually she has some "reset" throw options,but all garbages,especially 214T*4T，a fucking easily escaped slow combo throw guarantees nothing?WTF? How Bass teached her daughter lol he has a same throw guarantee 6KP →ground grab→reset again.
The result is, this very throw always coming out because Tina players failed a JOS lol

I maybe wrong,but I still believe Tina has most trash moves in DOA5:rolleyes:
 
Atahotaku

Atahotaku

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GarryJaune said:
How Bass teached her daughter lol
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That's what happen when you change dreams like you change from panties and never stick to first learning pro-wrestling properly with the patriarchy xD So much for a feminist icon x'D

Edit: So, thanks to @delta sharing this in other thread we can have a better look at one of Tina's new throws:


I'm starting to think it will be the one for the 63214T command.
 
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Bogetsu

Bogetsu

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From what I could spot :p, the new gameplay features:
  • New air throw, when facing opponent's head.
  • 7K and a new follow-side throw.
Remarks:
  • 8P is FS.
  • Break Hold for high/mid K?
 
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