DOA5U Helena Combo Thread

[ninjaguy446]

Welcome to the DOA5U Helena combo thread! This is where you'll be able to find and contribute to Helena's growing combo list. This first post will be updated as more combos come. All combos were tested on counter hit. None of the CB! combos have the ender/PB/PL damage added. You'll have to do that one yourself.

Enders:
33P4P
33PP 33P4P
236PKP
66KP(P)

• NH Launch Combos:
  • Featherweights
    • 
      • BKO (Most Damage) 74
    • BKO
      • BTBTBTBT (Most Damage) 90
  • Lightweights
    • 
      • (Most Damage) 53
      • (Best Knockback) 46
      • 46
      • 39

6P+KP:
6P+KP 66H+K BKO 4PKK (81) Light
6P+KP 33P4P (65) Light, Mid
6P+KP 66H+K BKO PPP (72) Light, Mid
6P+KP 66KK(P) (78) Light, Mid
66P:
66P 3K 33P CB! (66)
66P KK 8P CB! (75)

236PKP:
236PKP 66KP(P) (83) Light, Mid
236PKP 66H+K BKO 4PK 33P4P (101) Light, Mid

44P+K (RAW):
44P+K 66KP(P) (81)
44P+K BKO 4PK 33P4P (84)

44P+K (POWER LAUNCHER):
44(P+K) 66H+K BKO 66P 44H+K 33P4P

 

[DR2K]

Naked power launcher(any charge) 33p4p and 66kpp work.

 

[XV MR ARMANI]

after CB! does BKO 66P > 8PP4 > BT 4PK work?

 

[ninjaguy446]

after CB! does BKO 66P > 8PP4 > BT 4PK work?

No, BT 4PK whiffs on Haybusa (mid weight) but maybe it works on Kasumi. Let me check.

EDIT: @XV MR ARMANI It whiffs on Kasumi (light weights) also so no that is not a combo.

 

[Omegan Eckhart]

@ninjaguy446 What do Helena's open palm attacks do on CH now? Seeing as they are all unsafe again I'd figure they have new properties. Can they be used in combo's?

 

[ninjaguy446]

@ninjaguy446 What do Helena's open palm attacks do on CH now? Seeing as they are all unsafe again I'd figure they have new properties. Can they be used in combo's?

Yes they can. 66P is actually really good to extend combos or start combos on NH. On CH it gives +22 frames of advantage and does 25 damage (125%). I listed some small combos you could use to go for CB!. Check the first post.

 

[Rawbietussin]

Don't have the game yet but I'm curious to know.

Can 9P2K BKO 6PPK BKO 4P+K still be done like it was in Vanilla 5? Especially the BKO 4P+K bit (regardless whether half-way charged or not) after launching opponents with BKO 6PPK?

 

[ninjaguy446]

Don't have the game yet but I'm curious to know.

Can 9P2K BKO 6PPK BKO 4P+K still be done like it was in Vanilla 5? Especially the BKO 4P+K bit (regardless whether half-way charged or not) after launching opponents with BKO 6PPK?

Yes it can still be done, but without charge. It'd be more efficient to do 9K2K BKO 6PPK BKO 4PK 33P4P since it does a substantial amount of more damage.

 

[DR2K]

Don't have the game yet but I'm curious to know.

Can 9P2K BKO 6PPK BKO 4P+K still be done like it was in Vanilla 5? Especially the BKO 4P+K bit (regardless whether half-way charged or not) after launching opponents with BKO 6PPK?

It works.

 

[Rawbietussin]

Yes it can still be done, but without charge. It'd be more efficient to do 9K2K BKO 6PPK BKO 4PK 33P4P since it does a substantial amount of more damage.

I see. I prefer to have different varieties of combo enders than be stuck at most with 33P4P but I'll bear that in mind anyways. Thanks again.

 

[ninjaguy446]

I see. I prefer to have different varieties of combo enders than be stuck at most with 33P4P but I'll bear that in mind anyways. Thanks again.

Yeah. That's cool though. I like variety. But the 33P4P version does like 20-30 points more of damage.

 

[Rawbietussin]

Yeah. That's cool though. I like variety. But the 33P4P version does like 20-30 points more of damage.

And it does damage more when it hits on walls right?

Also, what combos would you recommend with BKO T?

 

[ninjaguy446]

And it does damage more when it hits on walls right?

Also, what combos would you recommend with BKO T?

Well, 33P4P now wall hits (sadly), so it would still do more. But if you're at a farther range then it wouldn't wall hit, but here's the damage. BKO 4P+K will whiff if you do it right next to the wall. BKO 6PPK the K part will also wall hit.
BKO 4P+K
No Wall: 79
Wall: 89

33P4P:
No Wall: 108
Wall: 118
Both Wall hits: 128

Same staple combo. 4PPK 33P4P BKO 6P.

 

[Rawbietussin]

Well, 33P4P now wall hits (sadly), so it would still do more. But if you're at a farther range then it wouldn't wall hit, but here's the damage. BKO 4P+K will whiff if you do it right next to the wall. BKO 6PPK the K part will also wall hit.
BKO 4P+K
No Wall: 79
Wall: 89

33P4P:
No Wall: 108
Wall: 118
Both Wall hits: 128

Same staple combo. 4PPK 33P4P BKO 6P.

I see what you mean by the difference it does in damage. I still think BKO 4P+K is a viable option for me. Both wall hits? You mean like hitting the wall twice?

Ah alright. I guess nothing much changed with what you can use through BKO T. Can the new 66H+K connect to it though?

 

[ninjaguy446]

I see what you mean by the difference it does in damage. I still think BKO 4P+K is a viable option for me. Both wall hits? You mean like hitting the wall twice?

Ah alright. I guess nothing much changed with what you can use through BKO T. Can the new 66H+K connect to it though?

Yes, because BKO 6PPK also wall hits.

No I tried and I can't find any way to incorporate it but nice idea.

 

[Rawbietussin]

Yes, because BKO 6PPK also wall hits.

No I tried and I can't find any way to incorporate it but nice idea.

I see. That's a bummer. :/ Any ideas on how to make the 66H+K useful in a combo though?

 

[ninjaguy446]

I see. That's a bummer. :/ Any ideas on how to make the 66H+K useful in a combo though?

Yep. It's okay. Here's an example combo I'll add to the list:
66P 33P 66H+K BKO 6P CB!

 

[Rawbietussin]

Yep. It's okay. Here's an example combo I'll add to the list:
66P 33P 66H+K 6P CB!

33P or 66H+K won't launch the opponent up?

 

[ninjaguy446]

33P or 66H+K won't launch the opponent up?

Nothing launches. It just extends the stun for a CB!. And I meant BKO 6P.

 

[Rawbietussin]

Nothing launches. It just extends the stun for a CB!. And I meant BKO 6P.

Ah alright then. Thanks again. I'll be sure to contribute my combos once I get the game in about 4 more hours.