Characters Eliot Apprentice of the Iron Fist Combo's

Yaguar

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I've just started looking at Eliot for the first time since DOA4 so I'm excited for this.
 

ScattereDreams

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Environmental, slope style, ceiling, sabaki, and 6H/4H combo's would have been nice. You also should have implemented F+K which guarantees 9K on CH and guarantees 9K on NH while in open stance.
 

Yaguar

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Noticed Eliot has same SDS problem that Momiji has. 15 frames at fastest stagger and it isn't hard to pull off in a real game.
 

Yaguar

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Just watched it. Man good effort! Do you know what was highest damage from throw and power launcher that you used? I'll steal those from you =p
 

David Gregg

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Very nice! Thanks for taking the time to make that. :) Just one thing to add that I may have missed but:
H+K: Don't forget the importance of this! The launcher 9K may be closed stance dependent but it's guaranteed damage (on medium weights and below you can get ~75 on NH and over 100 on Hi-C!)
Then another little thing is his Uncharged PL. This one is probably not much use but if your opponent doesn't tech roll (and believe me a lot of unexpected opponents don't for this particular attack), you can actually follow it up with an i3P and then a combo finisher. Kind of cool especially since most uncharged PL's can't have followups but like I said not particular that useful
 

EMPEROR_COW

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Lol no but I'll make a guide.
I'm trying to learn him after I finished his damn Combo Challenge .. I have to admit I got a little inspired ..
I still feel he's not much of a great character .. being slow as hell, with nothing guaranteed, and requiring too much effort for his max damage .. But I have to admit hes a lot of fun ..

So I have a few a few questions:
1) does he have any natural combos ?
2) whats his max damage after CB on a midweight?
3) Anything Guaranteed that I missed ? at all ? (apart from 9K after Parry?)

Thanks
 

iThe Apprentice

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I'm trying to learn him after I finished his damn Combo Challenge .. I have to admit I got a little inspired ..
I still feel he's not much of a great character .. being slow as hell, with nothing guaranteed, and requiring too much effort for his max damage .. But I have to admit hes a lot of fun ..

So I have a few a few questions:
1) does he have any natural combos ?
2) whats his max damage after CB on a midweight?
3) Anything Guaranteed that I missed ? at all ? (apart from 9K after Parry?)

Thanks
One thing that can be guaranteed is his :H+K: in closed stance if you're close enough, it will guarantee a :9::K:
But just to be 100% sure. You'd have to wait for the guide I'll go on full detail and add notes if there's mistakes.
 
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Jyakotu

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I love doing :236::F: and following up with some :3_::P: for some amazing damage. Learned it from watching the videos of members on here. Gets lots of damage when it's a Hi Counter Throw at that!
 

AkaShocka

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I suck mass ass with Eliot and this video helped me out alot. I am trying to learn him quickly so I just jotted down some combos (ok maybe all the combos) in my "Stealing Combos" journal (lol not really). But this is very useful. I now have decent looking combos after burst instead of 9k - PPP or 9K - PPK xD.
Thank you sir.
 

iThe Apprentice

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I suck mass ass with Eliot and this video helped me out alot. I am trying to learn him quickly so I just jotted down some combos (ok maybe all the combos) in my "Stealing Combos" journal (lol not really). But this is very useful. I now have decent looking combos after burst instead of 9k - PPP or 9K - PPK xD.
Thank you sir.
At your service.
 

EMPEROR_COW

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iThe Apprentice said:
One thing that can be guaranteed is his :H+K: in closed stance if you're close enough, it will guarantee a :9::K:
But just to be 100% sure. You'd have to wait for the guide I'll go on full detail and add notes if there's mistakes.


I need to do more testing..
Is this guaranteed on fastest SE?
 

Yaguar

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I've been playing him on the side for a couple of weeks now (not much lab stuff just playing matches).

The one thing I'll point out is that he has a great pseudo-tech game through :P+K: (whiff) :2::P:. You do have to be willing to cast off the damage of stuff but you can work it in with his wall game too. Leaves you with HUGE +frames.

I've mainly been playing him to work the walls. Downside of this is his free stepping is slooooooow. If I want some one with a wall behind them, it is gonna take Eliot a day or 2 to walk around them. Splash gives you a :3_::P: x2 combo though so it is pretty sexy. If you're willing to drop a little you get the pseudo too (might be remembering wrong but I'm 95% you can work it with his wall game, take a look after overtime).
 
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