"Im giving this all I got!" - Honoka Combo Thread

[KING JAIMY]

Yes, except Alpha.

Cool. I have found some unholdables myself as well but I believe these are already stated in this thread:

4T - 33P
4T - 4K
6T (W!) - P (whiff) - 1K

 

[KING JAIMY]

Found a combo video on YouTube today which isn't shared here yet. All credit goes to the YouTube user kmpyj1.

The video has some interesting setups. Unfortunately quite a few of them are impractical since they use NH 8K as a combo starter, which will most likely never happen. Pretty sick Hissatsu Throw combos as well. My favourite one is the combo shown at 1:34 - 1:40.

P.S.: I've got to say they have a pretty good taste in music choice.

 

[KING JAIMY]

Honoka's Hissatsu K can be used in wall juggles now because of the removal of the wall knockback.

8P > Heichu P+K (W!) > Hissatsu K > 3PPP (W!)

Tested on middleweights.

Also the new property of PP4P gives her interesting BT setups. A good setup I've found is: 6P (CH) > PP4P > BT P > BT 4K > juggle (varies per weight class). Lots of mixup potential here.

It seems like 33P launches higher as well allowing for longer combos near a wall. Not sure about the re-launch of 33P, but it seems to re-launch a tad higher in juggles.

 

[Codemaster92163]

The most damaging PL combo I've found is 236H+K > BT K > 6K > PPPK

For easier timing, you can use 236H+K > BT P > BT K > PPP46P. If your timing is a bit off, use PPPK instead for just 2 points less.

 

[Nikotsumi]

Just played Ver 1.04, Honoka got some interesting changes

33P combos:
33P CH > 6H+K > DS K > 2P+K4(6P) (Lightweights)
33P HiC > 8K > BKO 4PK > 2P+K4(6P) (Lightweights)
33P CH & HiC > 6H+K > DS K > 2P+K4(6P) (Middleweights)
33P CH & HiC > 66P+K > HC P+K (Heavyweights)
33P CH & HiC> 8K > BKO K > DHO P+K> BT K > 236P (Featherweight)

HnK K wall combos :
8P > HC P+K (Wall) > HnK K > 33P > 2P+K4(6P) (Lightweights)
(Closed stance) 8P > HC P+K (Wall) > HnK K > PPP6P (Middleweights)
8P > HC P+K (Wall) > HnK K > 3PPP (Heavyweights)
8P > HC P+K (Wall) > HnK K > 33P > 3PPP (Featherweight)
BT PP (Wall) > HnK K > 3PPP (Middleweights)
Note : HnK K whiffs almost always after Wall BT PP, i was only able to do it middleweights (Ein,Jann Lee) and even on them it's pretty inconsistent.

The most damaging PL combo I've found is 236H+K > BT K > 6K > PPPK

Here you can replace PPPK with PPP6P for 2 points more.

 

[KING JAIMY]

Anyone found some new combos recently with Honoka? I've been dying to find new ones (or just new tech in general). Myself I haven't found anything simply because I haven't been playing that much.

 

[Nikotsumi]

Anyone found some new combos recently with Honoka? I've been dying to find new ones (or just new tech in general). Myself I haven't found anything simply because I haven't been playing that much.

Unfortunately, me neither, despite playing playing her in training mode lately. I've just found an unholdable setup :
If you end a combo with 1P, instead of 2P+K4(6P) and P+K+PP, and the opponent techs on the sides, 16f moves will be unholdable (8P, 8K, 3P, 33K, 66P+K), however, for range reasons, the only ones that will hit the opponent in open space are 8P and 66P+K.

 

[KING JAIMY]

Unfortunately, me neither, despite playing playing her in training mode lately. I've just found an unholdable setup :
If you end a combo with 1P, instead of 2P+K4(6P) and P+K+PP, and the opponent techs on the sides, 16f moves will be unholdable (8P, 8K, 3P, 33K, 66P+K), however, for range reasons, the only ones that will hit the opponent in open space are 8P and 66P+K.

The 8P unholdable seems interesting in open space, because it is a semi-safe unholdable. Although I prefer to go for damage and knockback rather than an unholdable. But thanks anyway!

 

[KING JAIMY]

I accidentally discovered a new breakable object-specific combo for Honoka. I will make a video out of it soon, me thinks. Stay tuned folks!

 

[KING JAIMY]

The combo I found is too situational, sorry guys. Anyway, I have found an unholdable just a few minutes ago:

Setup: > > HEI
Unholdable:

Setup is non-stagger escapable. The unholdable only works if they don't back tech, unless they are with their back to the wall.

 

[TRI Mike]

Anyone know what is her best juggle after the super launcher throw¿

 

[Nikotsumi]

Anyone know what is her best juggle after the super launcher throw¿

On middle/lightweights its : (slight dash) 3K > Dokuritsu-ho P+K > Back turned K > PPP6P (Damage 117, on HiC)

On Alpha : (slight dash) 3K > Dokuritsu-ho P+K > Back turned K > 6K > 2P+K4(6P) or (slight dash) 8K > Bokuho K > Dokuritsu-ho P+K > Back turned K > 2P+K4(6P). The second one is easier and does the same damage as the other one (120 damage)

On heavyweights the best juggle i found is 33P > 6H+K > Dragon Stance K > P+KPP (108 damage), but you can just complete the throw for 115 point of damage.

 

[TRI Mike]

What do you mean complete the throw¿

 

[Nikotsumi]

You can complete the throw by pressing 8T, but ....did you mean the throw during Hissatsu no Kamae, right?

 

[TRI Mike]

There's a continuation to the super-launcher¿ I'm still not used to the name of her stances other than Bokuho so I have no clue what Hissatsu no Kamae is. lol

EDIT: Anyway, I've been playing the girl for at least a year now failing miserably and only now I'm starting to find "some" logic and coherence to her moveset.

She's good but very tricky to use.

 

[Nikotsumi]

Yeah, she's indeed very tricky to use. I never bothered to learn stances' strange [?] names either before starting to use Honoka, 'cause i didn't really play a stance-based character.
Anyway, Hissatsu no Kamae is the stance in which she can do a low throw, a flying knee (K), the critical burst with the red aura/mist (P) and the throw that can be continued by pressing 8T after she launches the opponent,

 

[TRI Mike]

I'll check this out once I get home. I honestly didn't know there was a second part to that throw. Also, there's a LOW throw in that stance¿ This could fix some of her worst problems when she gets forced into entering it.

 

[DestructionBomb]

What is Honoka's max heavyweight combos?

 

[Nikotsumi]

What is Honoka's max heavyweight combos?

She has tons of launchers, which ones are you looking for?

Edit :
Anyway, here's her max damage heavyweight combos for her most common launchers (max threshold).
9K > 6H+K > DSK > 2P+K4(6P) (best CB combo)
HnK K > 6H+K > DS K > 2P+K4(6P)
8K > BKO 4PK > 2P+K4(6P)
33K > 6K > PPP6P

 

[DestructionBomb]

She has tons of launchers, which ones are you looking for?

Edit :
Anyway, here's her max damage heavyweight combos for her most common launchers (max threshold).
9K > 6H+K > DSK > 2P+K4(6P) (best CB combo)
HnK K > 6H+K > DS K > 2P+K4(6P)
8K > BKO 4PK > 2P+K4(6P)
33K > 6K > PPP6P

Ah gotcha, will test tonight but it sounds like the one you provided does more damage too. What about for splatting them into a wall?