System Raidou's list of Unholdable tech-up attacks

[Matt Ponton]

This is for a list of Raidou's unholdable attacks if an opponent techs up immediately or is force-teched up from the ground.

Juggles:

Ender >
Ender >
Ender >
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Wall Splats:

W! > > : Leaves opponent in GB(14) or 50/62/75 DMG with possible W!
> W! >
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Throws:

> ​

 

[Jefffcore]

Finish combo with ppp: 66k is unholdable, and 3p+k uncharged is unholdable.

Finish with 8k: 4k is unholdable

After a standing 7k: 66k is unholdable. 7k is guaranteed after a PB , and a fireball guard break, but they add another frame.

After TGS (12i throw): uncharged PB is unholdable.

If his fireball manages to give a wall crumple, an uncharged PB is unholdable

 

[Matt Ponton]

Thanks @Jefffcore , I think I got them correct in the post. Haven't been able to verify though.

 

[Jefffcore]

Np. I added another one. I edited it out, then back in.

 

[Matt Ponton]

After a standing 7k: 66k is unholdable. 7k is guaranteed after a PB , and a fireball guard break, but they add another frame.

I'm a little confused on this one. Is 7K hitting in critical? in juggle? on Normal hit?

and not sure what you're saying about adding another frame?

 

[Jefffcore]

Sorry. Yeah, NH. If it hits a guard broken state, it takes 1 more frame for them to hit the ground, so 66k whiffs. CH and HCH are more than that.

Ender 33kp > 6h+k, 2k, 9k, or 8k on mid height; h+k, 66p, or 236k at highest; and 8p at the lowest

33kp on NH > 1k

 

[TRI Mike]

I'm sorry but I don't understand this. You mean the opponent is unable to hold immediately after teching¿ this is new to me.

 

[Matt Ponton]

I'm sorry but I don't understand this. You mean the opponent is unable to hold immediately after teching¿ this is new to me.

Yes, if they hold they are hit on Normal hit. If they Sidestep they are hit on Normal hit. If they guard, they guard the attack.

 

[TRI Mike]

Oh! I didn't know this. This will give me a lot of stuff to experiment on. Thanks.

 

[KING JAIMY]

An unholdable PB I've recently found from wall splats:

- Middleweights and Super Heavyweights: W! > 6PP (W!) > 4P+K (Full charge, unholdable Power Blow)

 

[SilverForte]

I assume that's a full wall splat, I'll test that out later.

 

[KING JAIMY]

I assume that's a full wall splat, I'll test that out later.

Yes, it's on full walls. The advantage granted from his second 6PP wall splat is +30 on middleweights to super heavyweights, and +29 on all sorts of lightweights.

 

[DestructionBomb]

Wanted to throw this one incase there will be of use to anyone. @SilverForte @Jefffcore

(Open space) (unfinished throw into the floor) > is unholdable. They are only allowed to back tech and unable to perform any WUKs. Incase people drop the throw on mistake, or putting them closer to a wall.

W! > > > is unholdable.

 

[EVILDEATHKING]

Heres a useful one for.

(Open area) If you do 6KK without launching, and then opponent back techs. Then 214P is unholdable.

 

[SilverForte]

Yup, I found that one out a while ago, need to actually use it though heh.

 

[DestructionBomb]

Going to hop on the lab and likely stream tonight with Raidou doing stuff with walls too. Great stuff @EVILDEATHKING @SilverForte

 

[EVILDEATHKING]

After finishing a combo with PP4PK, if the opponent techs to side 2 H+K is unholdable @DestructionBomb @SilverForte

 

[EVILDEATHKING]

Next to an invisible wall, if you do 236p no launcher. Then 4K is unholdable

 

[DestructionBomb]

Cool stuff EvilDeathKing, but be careful when you quadriple post. It's best to edit your post into one since it's easier that way and it's moderator rules for the forums.

 

[SilverForte]

Yeah, good stuff, but what DB said, makes it easier to read too.