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It shouldn't do what it does period. I've seen it all types of matches from scrubfests to high level players where low hold is being used beyond its scope. They lose it when their attack is whiffed, they lose it when their throw is whiffed. These are facts.

Another cop out answer that doesn't answer the question asked of you. Reset the entire situation in their favor is a lot more than nothing.

Your solution is to guess right. Hence why it's being written off.If you find a way to punish random low holds consistantly then by all means share it with the community. How is one option having more utility balanced?

Because low holds beat all highs and lows vs the other 3 holds only being able to beat what they're intended to.They also evade throws and recover faster than most. The other 3 have a lot more risk and a specific purpose vs low holds that have a lot more utility.

High and throws already have risks associated with them, everything does.

I'm not asking for pros and cons, I know them. I don't need 600 make shift scenerios. Go ahead and answer why low holds should have more defensive options then every other hold. Why should it have evasion properities that other holds don't get?

Because it is based on offline tournmanet footage. It's not something you can consistantly do since no one can. It's completely based on prediction. Training doesn't work, aka DOA4. Guess more for a guess? No thanks. We have Team Ninja's ear so we can actually make low holding honest. Why...

It's a guess with a higher odd of winning than every other defensive option. Why?

Yeah usually the one below or above it. How the fuck this made it past beta testing I won't understand. Breast jiggle got more attention and detail than the online mode.

Cute what if scenerios that don't address the problem. I'm not asking you what will beat low holds. You still didn't answer why low holds should be a stronger defensive option than other holds and you have the nerve to ask why we're still arguing?

Thanks for contributing nothing to the thread.Or reading any of the responses since your cop out response has already been addressed.

I don't understand why a luchadore character is slow as she is. Look at how El blaze is deisigned and go from there Team ninja.

Something that executes at 0 frames and recovers at 18 is something that you can do with impunity. Trust me players aren't predicting when they spam a low hold, it beats out too many offesnive options to do that. Your highs lose and will probably recover slower, your lows will lose because holds...

You have to predict that your opponent will low hold, it's rarely ever used to punish it on or offline. Low holds would need more recovery frames for low throws to be a consistant punisher. How many more frames exactly? Because it isn't enough.

Low holding already beats all highs, holds all low attacks, and all standing throws.It also recovers fast enough to beat out whiffed attacks. It does too much imo. I reccomend that a standing throw cause an unholdable stun for low holds.

Pretty much my conclusion to Helena in DOA5.

That would be Hayate from my experience. Online lets them do their unsafe shit over and over and you can't react to it properly so they end up being better than they are and easy as shit to use as a result.

There's no such thing. Ninja Gaiden 3 isn't coming out until November.

Team Ninja's games prior to Itagaki's leave were usually delayed, from a few weeks to a few months. This is their most bug ridden game ever released. So waiting on a patch for a functional netcode, constant freezing issues, glitches, bugs, infinites, poor balance choices, etc. . . if they want...

Eh, they had no business releasing an unfinsihed half baked game. Now they're spending thousands on patches, and losing good word of mouth sales.