Honoka video tutorial by HajinShinobi

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#4
I really appriciate players who are doing these kinda streams or video's.
I did not watched this whole video, but from what i saw i think i have to correct HajinShinobi with these little details:
' 9frame jab is not the fastest strike in the game.
' 6p (11i mid) is not the fastest mid strike in the game.
' 2h+k4(6p) is not only better then 2h+k46p just because of the 1 point more damage.

Dont get me wrong, im not hatin. Keep up these kinda streams and videos!
 
#5
Funny to see this, I've gone back to Helena and doing so much better now. Shes so incredibly limited with no mid-low mixups and trash reach, she's bottom pit tier for me, and believe me I tried. I hope TN rebalances her, I'm not touching honoka until then.
 

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#6
Again thanks for these tutorials iHajin, I'll definitely give to it a look when I've time ;) I would like to start to learn seriously Honoka, but I've already a long list of backlog characters just now xD
 
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#7
I really appriciate players who are doing these kinda streams or video's.
I did not watched this whole video, but from what i saw i think i have to correct HajinShinobi with these little details:
' 9frame jab is not the fastest strike in the game.
' 6p (11i mid) is not the fastest mid strike in the game.
So, what is the fastest high and mids in the game, then? I'm referring to initial strike speed.

You are also welcome to elaborate your opinion on 2P+K46P differences as well.

Keep in mind that I am not a master of this character. Only picked her up so I know what's going on with her and to help the community out for those interested in picking up the character.

You stating your opinion does not imply "you are hating", lol. If you feel something was left out or possibly incorrect, you are free to speak it. I am open to criticism so that I know what needs improving on for possible future tutorial material. This is to help the community.

Funny to see this, I've gone back to Helena and doing so much better now. Shes so incredibly limited with no mid-low mixups and trash reach, she's bottom pit tier for me, and believe me I tried. I hope TN rebalances her, I'm not touching honoka until then.
Then that simply means this character isn't for you, and Helena is. The character is fine.
 
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#8
@iHajinShinobi :
Fastest strike in the game is what i believe: BT 7k of Alpha. Its 8frames and it even is a midstrike! Therefore a 9frame jab is not the fastest strike and an 11frame mid is not the fastest midstrike.

And more reasons why 2h+k4(6p) is better then 2h+k46p is:
- save on block
- Hits in juggles lower
- let the opponent fly further: greater chance on walldamage
- it has more range

Keep it up!
 
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#9
Yes, I am aware of Alpha's BT7K being i8. However I implied initial speed (R1F), Alpha cannot change stance without strike movement. Alpha's BT7K is technically the fastest in the game. But I'm speaking of fastest neutral strike speed, initially (R1F).

So an i9 and i11 are the fastest in this case.

About 2P+K46P, I know 2P+K4(6P) is safe, I don't think I mentioned that in my video though (some things I'm sure I didn't remember as I did the video so my apologies to folks on that). The other information is much appreciated, however.
 
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