NightAntilli
Well-Known Member
It's not a typo.. You have a mid string grab after
, and the stuns the opponent (whether the grab connected or not), after which you burst.
Kokoro Combo Thread
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, and the stuns the opponent (whether the grab connected or not), after which you burst.
The new combo is basically a CB on 2nd hit. If the first attack connects the opponent can only counter the CB. I'm really starting to get into this ho.
I think you're better off doing
and not . would stun, so you would have to hope that they hold or block the to bait in a grab. They would pretty much have to fall for the bait in general. After you can still pretty much get a CB right after. Of course for you to get them into a critical stun state the grab has to succeed and not whiff. Of course I guess your method can go if you whiff the throw(which I guess is what you going for) but you seem to have more of a risk of being held. But your combo is still a clever option.
FatalxInnocence
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How come in regular enders nobody has put;
Is it because they're combos off critical burst or?
I made that awhile ago, a couple enders I came up with when I first got the game. They all critical burst off, but the idea of the video wasn't to show a variety of ways to get people into critical burst, just showcase some ways to go about launching them + enders. =]
Is it because they're combos off critical burst or?
I made that awhile ago, a couple enders I came up with when I first got the game. They all critical burst off
, but the idea of the video wasn't to show a variety of ways to get people into critical burst, just showcase some ways to go about launching them + enders. =]
Roroko
Member
How come in regular enders nobody has put;
Is it because they're combos off critical burst or?
Most likely because the first post was last edited ages ago. There was kind of a lull on the Kokoro board too.
The first one's pretty well-structured in that no free cancels are necessary and a wrong move won't come out accidently. I think you only need the opponent to be in CS, not CB, to get the height to land the whole string.
And holy f***en cherry blossoms, I didn't know you can
..Why did TN hide so many of her moves!?
Yaguar
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And holy f***en cherry blossoms, I didn't know you can
Why did TN hide so many of her moves!?
Tell me about it... I've been putting her frame data into a spreadsheet and I'm missing a load because they are hidden. Need to try and get a full listing of those to go with the listing of what they tell us >.<
FatalxInnocence
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Most likely because the first post was last edited ages ago. There was kind of a lull on the Kokoro board too.
The first one's pretty well-structured in that no free cancels are necessary and a wrong move won't come out accidently. I think you only need the opponent to be in CS, not CB, to get the height to land the whole string.
And holy f***en cherry blossoms, I didn't know you can
Why did TN hide so many of her moves!?
Hahaha, yeah... I kinda just started pushing
after alot of her attacks to see what it could cancel off... was one of them.
Doesn't training mode tell you abuout ? Could have sworn that's how I found out.
? Could have sworn that's how I found out.
NightAntilli
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Since some people are still confused about those moves that go into her stance or into the grab. I'll list the ones I know (if I don't forget any.. ).
BT = back turned
SS = side step
Heichu Stance:
BT
BT
Grab:
(grab gets follow-up punches if opponent is BT)
(grab gets follow-up punches if opponent is BT)
(yes from you can either grab or go into heichu)
BT
SS
If I forgot any, feel free to point it out.
BT = back turned
SS = side step
Heichu Stance:
BT
BT
Grab:
(grab gets follow-up punches if opponent is BT) (grab gets follow-up punches if opponent is BT) (yes from you can either grab or go into heichu)BT
SS
If I forgot any, feel free to point it out.
Roroko
Member
I was wondering about that ... does Heichu P+K auto detect a wall nearby and send them flying into it as opposed to CB, like how some throws will auto detect a wall and change which throw is performed?
I thought it was because of some other unknown factor ...
synce
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I haven't used it enough to confirm but it could be detecting walls even from an angle
And let me just say holy crap Kokoro is even more beast than I thought. I've been 'seriously' using her for only two days and I'm already taking down S's lol
Favorite juggle so far is 9p9p9p4pppp
And let me just say holy crap Kokoro is even more beast than I thought. I've been 'seriously' using her for only two days and I'm already taking down S's lol
Favorite juggle so far is 9p9p9p4pppp
Jiraiya-Sama2390
Active Member
^ good shit, but ranks don't mean a goddamned thing, especially online
phoenix1985gr
Active Member
Do you free cancel her 9p? i can only do 2 of them and then my p2kp dont connect... Im still pretty much learning with her but yeah is there a trick for this particular juggle?
Roroko
Member
Yes, you free cancel each 9P or else her 9PP string comes out.
The number of 9Ps you can land before a finisher (e.g., P2KP) depends on the launch height. Using the 4P+K launcher, you can land two 9Ps on normal hit, three on critical stun, and four on critical burst.
phoenix1985gr
Active Member
I asking after a cb... even on cb (online i cant connect the finisher after 2 lol) thats why i prefer using her 9k since the combo from that one i can do, but if its close to a wall it messes the combo
synce
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Got this idea from a couple nasty Leifang setups
4t, 66p, 3k, 66p, 4p+k, 9p9p9p, 4pppp
The first punch isn't guaranteed but if you land it everything afterwards is guaranteed.
Alternative:
h+k (in open stance*), 66p, 3k, 4p+k, 9p9p9p, 4pppp
^ Technically you can SE before the 66p connects but it requires godlike ability. Not quite as damaging as other option since there's no grab
4t, 66p, 3k, 66p, 4p+k, 9p9p9p, 4pppp
The first punch isn't guaranteed but if you land it everything afterwards is guaranteed.
Alternative:
h+k (in open stance*), 66p, 3k, 4p+k, 9p9p9p, 4pppp
^ Technically you can SE before the 66p connects but it requires godlike ability. Not quite as damaging as other option since there's no grab
Musourenka
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I really like that setup.
Only thing you have to watch for is backdashing, since they can avoid the elbow that way.
setup.Only thing you have to watch for is backdashing, since they can avoid the elbow that way.
Musourenka
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is one of my favorite moves because it's such a great way to convince people not to low hold.To start off, it's a crouch throw that grants +20f advantage, non-critical stun, so they can't hold out of it. There are three main options you have:
(Note: I used Bass as the target of "heavy" combos and Ayane as the target for "light" combos. Add 10 damage to total if the throw was a Hi-Counter)
1) Go for a launch with
. Simplest option. If not too close to the wall and it'll KO your opponent, go for it.1A) Heavies:
, BT Heichu is my current combo of choice. 72 damage.1B) Light-weights:
, BT , . 77 damage.2) Wall combos. If a normal wall is directly behind the opponent and not at an angle, I have a few depending on how close the opponent is to the wall:
2A) If the opponent is about four or five character widths away from the wall (i.e.
will not knock the opponent into the wall), my combo is:, run up if needed, (104 - 109 damage depending on distance, works on heavies and lights)2B) If your opponent is closer to the wall, but not quite point blank, then:
, (100 damage, works on lights and heavies)2C) If the opponent is right against the wall:
, (101 damage, works on Heavies and Lights)The elbow scores close hit damage at that range.
3) Critical Burst set-ups. This is where Kokoro gets really scary. Generally, you don't want to use these by the wall (since you get a lot of guaranteed damage from the above, and walls can mess up the CB set-ups), but these are good any other time. I have only tested these in terms of slow-escaping and blocking; I don't know how the opponents' holds will affect the stun. Depending on who you're fighting, you open up with
, then...3A) Heichu
. This will work on the following characters: Alpha-152, Bass, Bayman, Hayabusa, Hayate, Helena, Kasumi, Lisa, Sarah, Tina, and Zack. This goes straight into red stun (55 damage), and they can't slow-escape to avoid the burst. Have fun!3B) Heichu
. This is required against the other characters as the Heichu will miss. Just for easy reference, those characters are Akira, Ayane, Brad Wong, Christie, Eliot, Gen Fu, Hitomi, Jann Lee, Kokoro, Lei-Fang, Mila, Pai, and Rig. This set-up requires a bit more work; it's 50 damage and red-stun, but they can slow-escape and block the burst, along with most other options. The two follow-ups I use are:3B.I)
, thus extending the stun. They can't slow-escape afterwards to save themselves, so their only option is to hold. Full burst options are available. Again, have fun!3B.II)
, the weaker option overall, but the kick knocks them off the ground (the second hit allows for juggling), they can't slow-escape out of it, and it's a mid-kick to compliment the high-punch CB set-up.Follow with
on Heavies (87 damage and I think it force-techs) or on lights (94 damage).I'm sure there's more stuff that can be found. Her low throw is just too good.