Shimbori explains why they changed break blows on Marie, Honoka and NiCO

Jyu_Viole_Grace

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From Famitsu interview:

――ちなみに、ブレイクブローで顔面がアップになって殴られる演出がありますが、マリー、ほのか、NiCOには導入されていませんよね。しかも、試遊版などの以前のバージョンには演出がありました。それはなぜですか?

新堀 プレイヤーから、「アップで殴られる姿を見るのはイヤだ!」という声が圧倒的に多かったんです。現状はアップになりませんが、またプレイヤーからの反応をうかがおうかなと思っています。少なくとも、東京ゲームショウ2018での試遊では、悲鳴が聞こえるほど、マリーやほのかが殴られる姿を嫌がる人が多かったです。また、“DOAフェス2018”(『DOA』シリーズの大会やコスプレコンテストなどを行う公式イベント)でも同じような声があり、とくに『DOA エクストリーム』シリーズのファンからは、彼女たちが殴られる姿を見て衝撃的だったという声もありました。
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201903/15173303.html

A lot Japanese players (most of them from Xtreme series) complained about looking at "the cute girls" being punched in close up and shouting.

So you know, if you want it back, just keep pressing up Shimbori and Team Ninja.
 

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#3
Why should it be censored in the first place? Just because some weebs do not want to see it? That is why they have their Xtreme series. They should not be in the main game anyways. I'd rather have Leon and Gen-Fu in the game. But I guess that DoA will never be taken seriously anymore and I will never understand the appeal of Marie, Honoka and Nico. Nico could have been a guy with the same moves too
 

Jyu_Viole_Grace

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Why exactly would I want to see close-ups of cute girls being punched in the the face ?
That's the point of toggle for no violence if you don't want.

Why should it be censored in the first place? Just because some weebs do not want to see it? That is why they have their Xtreme series. They should not be in the main game anyways. I'd rather have Leon and Gen-Fu in the game. But I guess that DoA will never be taken seriously anymore and I will never understand the appeal of Marie, Honoka and Nico. Nico could have been a guy with the same moves too
I think the whole "no one takes this series seriously because women characters" is a meme at this point. Male characters aren't better by default, that's a misogynist way to think.
 

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This interview is a wild ride. He says that the only reason they made Nico was to get a character more popular than Marie... I hope they don't become a loli factory for female designs. He also says that they will update breast physics in new updates... nice use of your time. Still, enough people complained about the break blow thing, so that will probably be added back in

Also important is that up to 30(!!) story episodes were cut. Man, they really did a number on the story with that rush to release. The reason why Honoka's status was already obvious in the tag stuff etc was because this story was originally going to be added in last round.

They are planning to change how ground game works and make it more dynamic, they wanted to focus on getting back to the fighting after getting up but feel they made it too simplistic and got rid of too many possible situations. There some other stuff like wanting to display possible counters after guarding an attack in training mode, the reason they didn't adjust how frames work. He wants to introduce move names into the list, but 'can't make any promises yet'. Also another confirmation that costume drop rates will not go down again at all.
 
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As usual, the Japanese fanbase ruins it for everyone else. If it's not them causing Shimbori to backtrack on DOA5's direction and marketing, it's them doing the same disservice to DOA6, but in a different way... o_O

I love Japan, and I realise that might be where a certain bulk of players are coming from, in the eyes of KT at least, but come on.
Marie and Honoka became the franchise's poster girls over the span of a single re-release. I genuinely find it disrespectful to the series' legacy.

I miss Itagaki. His involvement may not have been conducive to competitively viable games, but his vision was singular.

EDIT:

Here's something to consider for DOA7: if you don't want to have cute girls getting socked in the face, in your fighting game - don't fucking put cute girls on the roster to begin with. I'd like a new female character that isn't "18", for that matter.

There's just so much wrong with every character they've introduced since DOA5U, honestly - but Honoka in particular pisses me off, because she could've replaced Leifang as the "spunky, cool girl" after Leifang herself became a tsundere in DOA5.

Instead, we got a moe blob they can copy and paste fetish outfits onto. Ugh.
 
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PhoenixVFIRE

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From Famitsu interview:



https://www.famitsu.com/news/201903/15173303.html

A lot Japanese players (most of them from Xtreme series) complained about looking at "the cute girls" being punched in close up and shouting.

So you know, if you want it back, just keep pressing up Shimbori and Team Ninja.
if they're from the xtreme series then why do they care... this is dead or alive 6 not dead or alive xtreme, Next
 

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#11
I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that people complained about something this dumb or the fact that TN caved in.

eat shit and die Marie Rose, Honoka, NiCO, Team Ninja, and Japanese players
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zoo

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Here's something to consider for DOA7: if you don't want to have cute girls getting socked in the face, in your fighting game - don't fucking put cute girls on the roster to begin with. I'd like a new female character that isn't "18", for that matter.

There's just so much wrong with every character they've introduced since DOA5U, honestly - but Honoka in particular pisses me off, because she could've replaced Leifang as the "spunky, cool girl" after Leifang herself became a tsundere in DOA5.

Instead, we got a moe blob they can copy and paste fetish outfits onto. Ugh.
yeah this game made me hate honoka even more so the fact that I can't zoom punch her hurts me
 
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Why should it be censored in the first place? Just because some weebs do not want to see it? That is why they have their Xtreme series. They should not be in the main game anyways. I'd rather have Leon and Gen-Fu in the game. But I guess that DoA will never be taken seriously anymore and I will never understand the appeal of Marie, Honoka and Nico. Nico could have been a guy with the same moves too
You talk as if DOA has been taken seriously in the past when in actuality that's not the case. DOA was always known as the shallow titty fighter and when Xtreme was made the nail was put in the coffin. DOA4 also ruined the series reputation. The competitive scene is actually bigger now than it has ever been.
 
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Macca Beam

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looks like this subject blowing up exposed both sides of the same mentally deficient coin: those who can't take a fighting game character getting :P:'d, and those with the otaku obsession with "getting revenge" at some fictional character via fictional violence

itagaki's vision involved none of this crude kindergarten grade (((violence))) though, so bringing the original creator up would only justify the exclusion of it even more. the clause you'd put before "in the first place" is not "why is it censored", but "why is it here in dead or alive"

oh and lol @ this naivete
He says that the only reason they made Nico was to get a character more popular than Marie
you do not make a popular character by reusing parts of another popular character. they should've learned from how popular kasumi still is over anything that reused her body, face or entire appearance. marie rose's popularity had nothing to do with her specific appearance, but the fact that it stands out when juxtaposed next to a cast full of samey, stagnated models.
 
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#17
If I had My only problem with the changes in the break blows (besides want nothing tone down), is that DOA6 already has a violence minimization filter so if I didn't want to see girls getting punched in the face I'd turn it on (which you don't get shots to begin with), but not having close camera shots like the other female characters when violence minimization is off is just plain stupid.
 

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I consider them wrong fans of the game. lol I mean all the girls are cute and pretty and in a fighting game. TN should just make every male fight like Sanji from One Piece so they the girls won't
be hurt. hahaha

I have no idea if the Japanese are vocal about breast reduction since DOA5 but their most popular character has almost none of that ;) lol

*insert confused Jackie Chan meme*
 
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