Or Lei Fang...
Daigo Umehara trains with different hardware according to the tournament he's going to enter. If it's on PS3, he plays on PS3, if it's on arcade he uses a cabinet etc. I heard it in an interview, just saying.
If this is of any help:Assuming that there's no monitor/tv screen lag, how about the timing of complex inescapable combo throws, such as Hayate's Raijin? ().
The timing seems a bit weird for me there. So my questions, specifically about the third part of the combo throw:
- Do I start inputting the directions way before COMBO THROW pops up or slightly before it pops up?
- Is there a certain interval/window in which the directions have to be inputted one after another? It seems like all four directions have to be inputted with the same amount of frames between each other, but I'm not entirely sure.
- Do I start inputting the
- How many ''dirty'' (= wrong) inputs is a player allowed to make in a certain part an inescapable combo throw?
Escapable throws that become inescapable when done frame perfect? Is that what you guys really want? Isn'it it sort of a... lame mechanic? Maybe I'm missing something.
But you know, the point of a doing a combo throw is that you decide to take the risk of getting your throw completely interrupted in order to deal higher damage, and this frame perfect thing mechanic would bypass this...
It's already a risk to attempt to throw due to attacks beating throws out right. I feel like why even bother for a combo throw if my opponent can escape it every time by getting a just frame perfect timing.
I don't know about you but I don't wish to take it up the ass for having my execution down no matter what character I'm using.
Your argument makes sense for the cabinet, but not for the platform. It's more dependent on the tv/monitor than on which console.
Well the same argument may apply to the defender too, he was so godlike to defend on frame 1 from a throw coming from a character that he doesn't even play and wants his throw to be broken.
Well the console makes a difference too, especially when compared to PC which can usually disable V-sync. Here's USF4 measurements: http://www.displaylag.com/reduce-input-lag-in-pc-games-the-definitive-guide/
If I took the risk of throwing then I expect as the person initiating the offense and landing it to be at an advantage over the defending the player not the other way around.
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I would be counting PC DOA2U's frames right now if only it was identical to the Xbox DOA2U, but it isn't. The "COMBO THROW" text itself is translated to Chinese lol.Is it me or was the timing different in older games? I feel like you had to input on frames 3 and 4, where the text is still partially transparent (that's how I trained myself back in the day). Would explain why I can't break anything in DOA5. Or I'm making excuses. The point is, I'm not sure which. I love how much more technical a PC version of the game has allowed the game to be and I hope every DOA has a PC version day-one going forward (and that @WAZAAAAA still cares to document this stuff
This is indeed intended behavior as documented in an old changelog
| Change throw escape behavior in Training Mode. Before, COM throw escapes would always succeed, regardless of player input timing, if the Throw Escapes setting was set to fastest. This has been changed to allow COM throw escapes to fail if the player inputs a command with perfect timing. |
| トレーニングモードで、「COMのオプション」の「投げ抜け」を「最速」にした場合、プレイヤーのコンボスロー入力タイミングに関わらず必ず投げ抜けに成功していた処理を、プレイヤーが完璧なタイミングで入力した場合は投げ抜け失敗するように修正。 |
