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KasumiLover

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@KasumiLover69 Why you characters from other franchises that don't fit at all in DOA? I honestly don't understand that.
Because TN has proven aside from maybe Marie Rose and Honoka, they aren't really good at making new original characters from scratch, everyone aside From Marie is just a recycled moveset with some refinement and or things added or taken away. The guests bring something new to the table, which I like since they're better than anything TN could possibly muster atm. Plus it's inevitable, we'll get another guest whether we want them or not, unless TN finally creates a male character that I like design and gameplay wise, I say they stretch those guest character muscles out and keep them coming, I'd much rather have Teddie from Persona 4 who's a perfect fit imo over some legacy male character rehash aside from maybe Genra, but even he can't logically return since he's dead, and I'll call it bull to freakin' shit if TN says "Oh MIST got his remains and reincarnated him like Raidou". They're gonna do what sells, and let's face it, Raidou and Honoka were better off included in the LR next gen game copies, Raidou wouldn't have sold well at all and even now no one really uses him.

Pretty much any anime franchise also would fit in DOA imo, plus guest characters are non canon "what if" type scenarios, so TN can actually think outside the box and add who they feel will get some hype, Soul Calibur did that with Link, Darth Vader, Apprentice, Yoda, and that guy from Assassin's Creed, Tekken did it with Akuma, and Mortal Kombat definitely went outside the box with their guest character choices. There's no reason TN can't do the same, just look at their collaboration packs, they've already done AOT, Fairy Tail, Gust, Atelier, Schoolgirl Strikers, KOF, etc. They can go even further.
 
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Sotherius

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they're better than anything TN could possibly muster atm.
Not a single character that you mentioned could be better than any original doa character, sorry, i think the disparity of opinions here are too much.

And even if it was true, any company should work on making their I.P stronger, and not bringing external IP's.

I like fairy tail, but honestly, all crossover packs, all of them don't even come close to the quality of the original costumes that you don't even need to buy for characters. DOA is great, it doesn't need to be mixed with mediocre stuff or out of place stuff.
 

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Not a single character that you mentioned could be better than any original doa character, sorry, i think the disparity of opinions here are too much.

And even if it was true, any company should work on making their I.P stronger, and not bringing external IP's.

I like fairy tail, but honestly, all crossover packs, all of them don't even come close to the quality of the original costumes that you don't even need to buy for characters. DOA is great, it doesn't need to be mixed with mediocre stuff or out of place stuff.
If the original character is a female like Marie Rose and Honoka, then I'd pass, that's really the only reason I don't want an original character because we'll likely get another girl like them.
 

Sotherius

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If the original character is a female like Marie Rose and Honoka, then I'd pass, that's really the only reason I don't want an original character because we'll likely get another girl like them.

How many male guest characters do we have as dlc? None.

The chances of a new character of a guest character being female are exactly the same, and if we're going to get another female, should be an original character, and if we're getting a male, should be an original character as well.
 

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How many male guest characters do we have as dlc? None.

The chances of a new character of a guest character being female are exactly the same, and if we're going to get another female, should be an original character, and if we're getting a male, should be an original character as well.
That's what I meant, a male guest character is possible but won't happen unless it happens to be a male trope type that's popular in Japan, and those are double edged swords since most western players hate effeminate or non masculine type characters.

This is basically a little list of characters I'd lose my shit over if they were added :-D
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Kaguya, Liu Shan, Lili, Kensou, Ryona or Teddie....I probably should've not have used Kensou since he's KOF and we already have Mai. XD Lui Shan and Kaguya are from Dynasty Warriors and are amongst the most popular characters in WO3U so they'd be shoe ins, plus I like them alot, Rendering Star share played the game with me and they're amazing in game.
 

Sotherius

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So, characters that don't fit in DOA at all.

DOA is over the top, but is not a 2000 era anime.

Dudes in DOA are from fit to muscular, and even the guest characters have to follow some fighting style to some degree, you can't have a character from persona because persona isn't about fist fighting.

Senran Kagura, eh i can't really tell, it seems to be pure fanservice.

A KOF character? that is ok, but we already have Mai, and they would pick another female if that happened again.

A musou character? Naotora was bad enough.

A tekken character? It would be fun to see Itagaki ranting on his facebook, but nah, not happening that soon.
 

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Uh... never mind, I'm sorry if you didn't like the characters that are perfect in my eyes:( TN could make them work, but I see your point. And Teddie does fight in Persona 4 Arena. SK isn't completely fan service, all the girls follow their own fighting style, even Ryona does, she uses compromised free style figure skating with quad guns, that's her own trained discipline and she's devoted to it.

...And watch what you say about Naotora. XD
 
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Argentus

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So, characters that don't fit in DOA at all.

1) DOA is over the top, but is not a 2000 era anime.

Dudes in DOA are from fit to muscular, and 2) even the guest characters have to follow some fighting style to some degree, you can't have a character from persona because 3) persona isn't about fist fighting.

Senran Kagura, eh i can't really tell, it seems to be pure fanservice.

4) A KOF character? that is ok, but we already have Mai, and they would pick another female if that happened again.

5) A musou character? Naotora was bad enough.

A tekken character? It would be fun to see Itagaki ranting on his facebook, but nah, not happening that soon.


few things

1) it has been since Marie Rose's introduction. The story mode was already pretty on the fence.

2) Not really. Momiji and Rachel had movesets made up for them because they aren't hand to hand fighters (kinda. I can't compare momiji but rachel got a crippled version of Nicole's moveset), then Marie Rose was the only dlc character who had a real fighting style. Everyone else was just recycled movesets.

3) Kick fighting instead of fist fighting, but still
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4) I'm all for that. Mai is literally the LAST kof girl I would've ever wanted in DOA. Another ponytail japanese ninja? No thanks. How bout
my girl Vice? Or Blue Mary? Or Shermie? Or Vanessa? Or Leona?

5) Naotara was just the worst choice ever. They picked her because new SW game, plus shes a japanese moeblob, plus easy kicking moveset.

I'd rather have Lu Bu's daughter, Lu Lingqi, or Zhangfei's daughter, Xingcai.


The problem is

Original AND guest character keep bringing absolutely NOTHING to the table.


After marie rose we had

Kasumi number 6.
Tengu genderswap clone
Two mimic characters at the same time.
A generic kicking moeblob
a 6th female japanese ninja

Honkers is easily the worst offender, because its painfully obvious they literally didn't have any concept for her beyond "has the biggest boobs" and just slapped recycled movesets on a copypaste of a popular anime character and called it a day because "biggest boobs" was their ONLY goal with that dlc, character and moveset be damned.


Mila and Rig were a good start, but japanese don't like non-cutesy "proper" moeblobs so Mila isn't very popular over there, while rig is well liked, I believe. But then marie rose dropped and the quality soon after.

I keep losing respect for the japanese fanbase because they reveal they have virtually no standards as they keep eating this literal shit up.


Uh... never mind, I'm sorry if you didn't like the characters that are perfect in my eyes:( TN could make them work, but I see your point. And Teddie does fight in Persona 4 Arena. SK isn't completely fan service, all the girls follow their own fighting style, even Ryona does, she uses compromised free style figure skating with quad guns, that's her own trained discipline and she's devoted to it.

...And watch what you say about Naotora. XD

if any of the SK girls got in, it would be the girl who goes all captain kuro by wolverining her katanas. But I think the one who SHOULD get in is Yozakura or whatever the girl with the gauntlets is called. Yeah she's a japanese kimono whatever, but megapunching so fuck yes.
 

KasumiLover

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few things

1) it has been since Marie Rose's introduction. The story mode was already pretty on the fence.

2) Not really. Momiji and Rachel had movesets made up for them because they aren't hand to hand fighters (kinda. I can't compare momiji but rachel got a crippled version of Nicole's moveset), then Marie Rose was the only dlc character who had a real fighting style. Everyone else was just recycled movesets.

3) Kick fighting instead of fist fighting, but still
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4) I'm all for that. Mai is literally the LAST kof girl I would've ever wanted in DOA. Another ponytail japanese ninja? No thanks. How bout
my girl Vice? Or Blue Mary? Or Shermie? Or Vanessa? Or Leona?

5) Naotara was just the worst choice ever. They picked her because new SW game, plus shes a japanese moeblob, plus easy kicking moveset.

I'd rather have Lu Bu's daughter, Lu Lingqi, or Zhangfei's daughter, Xingcai.


The problem is

Original AND guest character keep bringing absolutely NOTHING to the table.


After marie rose we had

Kasumi number 6.
Tengu genderswap clone
Two mimic characters at the same time.
A generic kicking moeblob
a 6th female japanese ninja

Honkers is easily the worst offender, because its painfully obvious they literally didn't have any concept for her beyond "has the biggest boobs" and just slapped recycled movesets on a copypaste of a popular anime character and called it a day because "biggest boobs" was their ONLY goal with that dlc, character and moveset be damned.


Mila and Rig were a good start, but japanese don't like non-cutesy "proper" moeblobs so Mila isn't very popular over there, while rig is well liked, I believe. But then marie rose dropped and the quality soon after.

I keep losing respect for the japanese fanbase because they reveal they have virtually no standards as they keep eating this literal shit up.




if any of the SK girls got in, it would be the girl who goes all captain kuro by wolverining her katanas. But I think the one who SHOULD get in is Yozakura or whatever the girl with the gauntlets is called. Yeah she's a japanese kimono whatever, but megapunching so fuck yes.
Yozakura wouldn't be a bad choice, although since this is TN they'll likely choose Ayame who can kick and punch with her gauntlets, that or Katsuragi or even Yumi since she's the most popular in Japan and fights with fans like Mai does. But on my life I swear I'd DROP someone just for Ryona. ♡.♡
 

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I'd be interested in seeing Kagura from SK in DOA, her costume wasn't in the SK pack for DOA5LR (she wasn't playable at the time), plus she's somewhat a main character in SK. Her fighting style could translate well into DOA

Or Naraku (Kagura's guardian)

Or Jasmine (Asuka's grandmother)
 

Banana56

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If we ended up getting a Dynasty Warriors character, I believe it would be one of the following

Diaochan (1st female character in the series, iconic)
Wang Yuanji (is the most loved DW character in the series)
Guan Yinping (seems to be pushed similar to how Naotora is in SW, plus she's Guan Yu's daughter)
Lu Lingqi (is the daughter of Lu Bu, who is the face of the series)
Sun Shangxiang (is one of the more popular and earlier female characters)
 

Sotherius

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Well, it is probably because i like Team Ninja's characters so much that i would preffer another kasumi clone over any possible guest ever.

Seriously, they are in the perfect spot between serious/gritty and innocent/fun, at the same time, they are in the right spot of over the top, they just know how to do it, even more in Ninja Gaiden than DOA, but DOA is still great.

And honestly, the male designs in DOA are my favorite in fighting games, they're not bodybuilders, but they aren't super skinny bishounen dudes either, they're just really solid characters in their own way.

But everyone has their tastes, and no one is better than anyone here.

I just get really annoyed when i keep seeing suggestions of pure fanservice characters or pure schoolgirl stuff into DOA, because it doesn't fit.
 

Argentus

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*Looks at all the bro shooters on the market and the success of MKX* Yeah, because American standards are so much better...
To be fair we all know the codtards are out there, never implied they weren't. Not sure what you're getting at with MKX though.

But my issue with japanese fanbase is they literally hate females having any individuality. All must be a generic moeblob or else, apparently. To the point they don't even try making actual characters for the dlc.
 

KasumiLover

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I just get really annoyed when i keep seeing suggestions of pure fanservice characters or pure schoolgirl stuff into DOA, because it doesn't fit.

I'm sorry... <_> I just won't suggest what I want anymore then, maybe I should've just stayed silent like I do IRL, my opinions and what I want always seem to be belittled, even online. And doesn't fit?? Sorry Soth but this is DOA....fanservice and schoolgirl stuff has been in the series since DOA1. That's why I'm always surprised when people seem to want DOA in this gritty no sexualization light when it's not going anywhere and why I feel like what I want shouldn't be alienated. Costume rips, Jiggle, tits, ass, DOAX3, guest characters etc. isn't going anywhere in the near future and I won't stick around if what I want and what the series has had from the start is compromised.
 

Sotherius

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maybe I should've just stayed silent like I do IRL

That is the magic of opinions, people will disagree with them, don't let me stop you from giving your opinion when i won't stop giving mine when people disagree with me.

And yeah, DOA has always had fanservice, but it wasn't pure fanservice. even the doa x games were more about relaxing than watching boobs, but now, oppai mousepads, creepy photoshoot mode? they might be taking it too far.

Fanservice is fine, is great even, but it shouldn't be the main focus, or the only defining feature of something, Doa is a fighting game with great designs, great mechanics, great characters AND a lot of fanservice, the series would be worthless if it was only fanservice.

Optional fetish dlc packs? that is ok.

Now imagine a game where the only costumes were fetish stuff, that would be terrible.
 

KasumiLover

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That is the magic of opinions, people will disagree with them, don't let me stop you from giving your opinion when i won't stop giving mine when people disagree with me.

And yeah, DOA has always had fanservice, but it wasn't pure fanservice. even the doa x games were more about relaxing than watching boobs, but now, oppai mousepads, creepy photoshoot mode? they might be taking it too far.

Fanservice is fine, is great even, but it shouldn't be the main focus, or the only defining feature of something, Doa is a fighting game with great designs, great mechanics, great characters AND a lot of fanservice, the series would be worthless if it was only fanservice.

Optional fetish dlc packs? that is ok.

Now imagine a game where the only costumes were fetish stuff, that would be terrible.
Creepy photo mode? It's not creepy, you can just take pics of your favorite girl in a variety of poses, the game itself even goes as far as having the girls react negatively to obscene poses so it's not creepy at all unless you're that player who makes it creepy, if I owned the game I definitely wouldn't do that Kasumi either. And you don't need to worry, remember the fetishes DLC and DLC characters are optional, the game is a fighter at its core and the outfits that are sold are for who wants them, most of the base outfits are excluding the badly selling DLC ones in DOA5LR are actually quite modest, sure they may show boobs but other fighters are guilty of this too. Boob mousepads are also just for those who want them.


And I got your DM, I'm not upset, I'm just gonna be a bit more reserved about who I want added in. Exclude Ryona and Teddie from my guest list and that's the fighters I'd want who don't necessarily not fit.
 
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P2p1mbs

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Has the discussion gone from dlc costumes to dlc characters? There are other discussions for that. I personally am ok with more guest characters but really think that they should save those and any new original characters for doa6.

We could do with at least one new dlc character that is original since the last one we got was Marie and we all know how successful she was.

And going back to dlc costumes, I guess I can accept that next month's costume pack would be a newcomers pack even if that means it will have more Marie and Honoka (I won't buy theirs anyway) if they at least gave Mai some swimsuits an Sarah and Pai each a cheerleader outfit.
 
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