In theory, it is still -15, but the block stun on it and push back makes it -5 (Unpunishable). It is truly -15 when the opponent's back is to the wall.
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From far range, 3K -3. Even when the opponent is at a wall. I guess he is at such a negative because he can't hit back or hold until the 15 frames are over, even if he is safe on block.
F_A_M_GAMEOVER
You silly goose ,online everything's on plus KAPPA