Free Step Dodge

This is cool..... but at the same time it breaks my heart because it makes Tina alil less Special than she already is (or isn't to be more specific)

Oh wat, Tina has all these grappler speed throws and one of the few characters that can throw people from a move that's like -6/-7. That's pretty sick, wish Leon had that since he feels more like a heavy striker pack or something.

I'd actually be willing To trade in Tina's Throw Speed for Kasumi or Ayane's Throw Variety/Utility. Its actually quits difficult to capatilise on unsafe moves that would be semi-safe for the rest of the Cast.

Cool to know. So it's like Marie's neutral wall throw, now I'm wondering if there are other characters who have one as well, or it's just these two.

I do think neutral wall throws are underrated. I doubt they'd be anything super game-changing if people looked into them, but an unbreakable 5 frame throw could have some good uses. Especially with Marie's which puts her at like +50-something.

Oh yeah I think so as well. Not just neutral throws but attempting to break them is underrated too. There is also a use for cases if you whiff throws and get thrown for it after, but you can literally safe throw at some levels using a neutral throw out of their stun and still be advantage after they are no longer in stun.

You can't break any neutral throw that does wall damage.

Alpha still wins fastest unbreakable throw with her i3 2T

Oh yeah, that means Alpha can 2T punish low punches that's like -5 or more unsafe on block.

I think it's -4. You can throw punish Helena's flappy hands with it

You can just toss out i10 OH's against blocked -4 *flappy hands*.

wait, so if a 5f throw is going to trigger wall damage, its unbreakable?

Yeah, there's no animation of breaking any throws from wall interaction via neutral throws or any throws so far.

Oh man, this makes mais 5t even better.

No, that's not quite right. Any wall-specific neutral throw, like Marie's for example, cannot be broken. Mai's neutral throw can cause wall damage, but it's not an actual wall throw, and can be broken.

Ok, thats what was meant, thanks for the clarification.

It has to be specific throws. Mai from what I remember does not have these type of throws near a wall.

Think of Gen Fu's i7 wall throw, except Leon and Marie has one that's i5 and unbreakable since it triggers a special wall interaction with it.

an i10 OH isn't guaranteed punishment tho