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Argentus
Argentus
As the joke character, or the kidnapped character Ryu is out to save?
ChaolanLegacy
ChaolanLegacy
Who knows, maybe he'll be more of a badass in NG4 (if he gets in) than he could probably ever be in DOA.
Omega SYSP
Omega SYSP
They are supposed to be best friends or something like that right ? Why ain't Hayate helping or tag teaming with him
Brute
Brute
Because he's useless.
Omega SYSP
Omega SYSP
He is not lol Just cause you don't like him doesn't make him useless brute !
ChaolanLegacy
ChaolanLegacy
If we're talking about his actions in DOA, well, ummm, Hayate hasn't done anything too impressive (yet). Hayabusa won the 2nd tournament, Ayane "won" the 3rd, Kasumi was the one who defeated DOA5's story boss.
Brute
Brute
The fact that he doesn't do anything useful makes him useless.
Argentus
Argentus
it's not that he didn't just win. It's the facts that
A) He was literally bitchslapped into a coma
b) He was way more badass as Ein than he ever was as Hayate
c) He's officially the weakest and most useless of the four ninjas.
d) HIs only role since recovering his memory was to send his men to their deaths en masse trying to kill Kasumi.
Sotherius
Sotherius
Ok, Hayate is a jobber, but, i have to correct those:
a) He was blasted against a tree and broke his spine.
b) Ein never did anything too impressive either.
c) He actually won against Kasumi twice if you go by itagaki canon, and DOAD also adds his collaboration towards Omega.
Sotherius
Sotherius
d) He actually is the one that led the ninja attack against doatec in DOA 4 and DOA 5, being the responsible for the disruption of part of doatec in some ways.
Omega SYSP
Omega SYSP
He runs a whole ninja clan so y'all can cut it lol That's very useful ! He may not be Hayabusa but he ain't nothing to scoff at either
Brute
Brute
But Hayabusa literally scoffs at him in DOA5.
Omega SYSP
Omega SYSP
He didn't scoff at him !!! Those were words of encouragement ! Every one needs them from time to time
Brute
Brute
"You are a failure."
Sotherius
Sotherius
He was teaching a lesson to hayate, hence the harsh words.
Brute
Brute
The lesson was that despite being the clan leader, he's its weakest named member aside from his mother.
Sotherius
Sotherius
That is true.
Omega SYSP
Omega SYSP
Honestly speaking we haven't really seen all that hayate has to offer in terms of skills so you can't solidly say that is the case. We need more of him period ! Yes he is a main character but besides being a clan leader we don't really know that much about him
Brute
Brute
The same argument could be made for any character who isn't dead. I find that hardly compelling.
Sotherius
Sotherius
I agree that we need more Hayate in the DOA series, and if other characters went playable on NG games, he could be there as well (nothing in the campaign, just an extra playable character), but Hayate needs to do more in DOA because his portrayal in the games is poor and he hasn't shown anything that a leader should do.
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