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Oh I see, that's unfortunate. I think if we stopped debating over semantics and provide just a unified front (in terms of proposed options), even if the game is far in development--it would go a long way. Everyone here who is a proponent of the offensive player really only wants one thing, "good...

Oh I see, sorry about this. I read the entire thread and while it's been interesting, I'm not sure where in the process we are/how much interaction with have with the team/how much they care. But I think we should just make a proposal sheet/page/doc (1 page, nothing long) and hand it over to...

Wow, we're still talking about this stuff. Realistically, now that the channels are open, I think we should approach it in the following manner: Ask the team if they're willing to consider a game where holds out of stun was gone entirely. If they answer no (and it likely is "no"), then we can...