RISE UP! Street Fighter V on PS4 and PC

SilverForte

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Honestly even if the price is a bit high, I'd be fine with it if they didn't say it was a limited time purchase. I tend to wait for price drops on these things and limited time dlc is never a good idea.
 

d3v

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Well, they want people to buy it before Capcom Cup since part of the money is going to the Capcom Cup prize pool, it would be pointless to buy it after Capcom Cup.

Think of it like DOTA2's Compendium. Nobody buys last years Compendium after TI is done.
 

d3v

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As long as the content will be there in the future, I don't really care.

I don't know anything about DOTA, sorry.
Every year, Valve sells a "Compendium" of which the money made is then used as part of the prize pool for The International in August. And this doesn't even necessarily provide in game content. The money raised is usually one of the biggest prize pools in all of eSports - the current pool for TI6 from this year's Compendium is already at 17.6 million dollars.

As for whether or not the stage and colors will be made available after Capcom Cup, who knows. That said, they will likely not say anything about it until after Capcom Cup.
 
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SilverForte

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Ok I see, well alright then. I only really want the chun li costume to be honest, if the deadline draws near and there is no news about it staying up I'll probably just get that.
 

Goarmagon

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New optional content and people getting mad?
I'm personally mad because the game doesn't work properly on my PC(Dual monitor setup) and they haven't done anything to alleviate that. They more or less proved every cynic right who said they made survival mode impossible on purpose so that people would bitch about it and give them an excuse to charge for shit that they traditionally dont charge for. Also its annoying that they wont release the content at the same time so that PC guys could have it at the same time.

Basically its not them offering additional content thats annoying people, its the fact that people feel cheated and lets be real the people who bought the season pass did get cheated.
 

d3v

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I'm personally mad because the game doesn't work properly on my PC(Dual monitor setup) and they haven't done anything to alleviate that. They more or less proved every cynic right who said they made survival mode impossible on purpose so that people would bitch about it and give them an excuse to charge for shit that they traditionally dont charge for. Also its annoying that they wont release the content at the same time so that PC guys could have it at the same time.
Blame Sony since they most likely paid for it.

As for paying for colors, they have to fund the CPT somehow. Supporting the game, with the patches, extra content, and of course, the Pro Tour costs money and they need to support that somehow.

Look at all the games with big competitive pushes (SFV, Mortal Kombat X, and of course, DOA5), you'll notice that the're set up to make alot of money on microtransactions and post launch content.
Basically its not them offering additional content thats annoying people, its the fact that people feel cheated and lets be real the people who bought the season pass did get cheated.
I bought the season pass, don't need to grind and even got a stage for free. I don't feel cheated.

Heck, for months now I've been saying that I'd pay to unlock colors. To paraphrase what Lab Zero founder and former top MvC2/GG/3S player Mike Z said (when making Skullgirls) - having to play single player to unlock stuff for multiplayer doesn't make sense, if there's a secondary option to unlock stuff, even if it requires payment, then that's a better solution.
 

Tyaren

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Look at all the games with big competitive pushes (SFV, Mortal Kombat X, and of course, DOA5), you'll notice that the're set up to make alot of money on microtransactions and post launch content.

These all are half as shameless in their pricing as a certain still unfinished game.
5.99 for a costume and 9.99 for a stage (so bland and simple as in SFV at that)? How can anyone in their right mind defend that?

having to play single player to unlock stuff for multiplayer doesn't make sense, if there's a secondary option to unlock stuff, even if it requires payment, then that's a better solution.

You aware that some people like to use their costumes in single player modes? Well, if there are single player modes in the game that is... >__>
 
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WAZAAAAA

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Shoutouts to capcom saying fuck you instead of fixing their game.

This guy on reddit sums up my feelings perfectly
lmao it's just overpriced aesthetics why do you give a shit

this guy on reddit > your guy on reddit
Netplay problems
-Matchmaking still sucks
-No way to filter by region (SF4 ok)
-No way to set input lag like GGPO to make long distance matches playable
-alt+tabbing still switches host on PC
-One side rollback
-Saving many replays results in date corruption
-Rage quitter problem still present
-You have to save replays before watching them
-Can't sort friends
-Separating favourites (players you want to watch) from friends (players you want to play with) is needed
-No online training (SF4 ok)
-Archaic lobbies - no way for multiple matches at the same time
-Statistics are still empty
-Notifications screen doesn't update when it's open
-Sending invitations when user is offline doesn't work
-Battle lounge doesn't save settings
-Long maintenances
-Losing connection to servers interrupts offline modes
-No chat support - no way to make friends in game
-Too few sorting options for favourites, world rankings & replays
-Turning off the music also turns off 'HERE COMES THE NEW CHALLENGER'

Gameplay problems
-badly implemented legacy controller support (complicated as fuck)
-no instruction how to use legacy controller support
-no dinput support on PC (SF4 ok)
-no key binding on PC
-keyboard can only be P1 controller
-no way to change specific graphical settings on PC without accessing config files (blur etc)
-standard moves marketed as something new by making them into vskills
-8f lag
-many characters have too similiar gameplans
-unimaginative vtriggers
-atrocious hitboxes
-differences between p1 and p2 side collision (floating point fuck up)
-air grab vs air grab winner chosen at random
-long loading times
-framerate issues on PS4
-fucked up button settings on character select - pressing again unsets buttons (SF4 ok)
-no Steam integration
-no way to set character themes in Versus
-PC version badly optimized (+various issues with launching the game, random fps drops etc)
-badly designed UI - hard to navigate and counterintuitive

Single Player problems
-Extra Battles?
-Daily Challenges? (aka targets)
-Subpar tutorial
-Training doesn't save your settings (SF4 ok)
-No character specific training options (Vega's claw state etc.)
-No option to set stun bars
-Quick reset with setting position (MvC3 ok)
-Badly implemented ways to record dummy actions (reversals, alpha counters etc.)
-Infuriating survival mode - the only way to unlock colors (colors per character, per costume...)
-No arcade mode/cpu versus (SF4 ok)
-No way to acquire premium costumes still
-CFN account is not really an account (can't use it on a different console/steamid)

Visual Problems
-Ken's face aka quality of some models is.. questionable
-quality of artworks in story mode
-stage transitions?
-special KOs? (bus, noodles etc)
-horrible clipping everywhere (even on character select..)
-stage interactions are rare (breaking boxes etc)
-WIP style UI
-P2 physics still broken on character select (solution - disabled boob physics :( )
-some Alt costumes use upgraded face/hair models - what about standard?

Communication/CPT problems
-no form of tournament mode
-only one player has the ability to start a rematch/change characters (SF4 ok)
-CPT rules were MIA for months
-no word about Alex version bug
-no restart match option?
-hold pause option global - should be quick in single player modes
-SteamOS/Linux version announced - where is it?
 

Xhominid The Demon Within

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Heck, for months now I've been saying that I'd pay to unlock colors. To paraphrase what Lab Zero founder and former top MvC2/GG/3S player Mike Z said (when making Skullgirls) - having to play single player to unlock stuff for multiplayer doesn't make sense, if there's a secondary option to unlock stuff, even if it requires payment, then that's a better solution.

Yeah but there should be...I don't know...a middle ground?
Even DOA5 through it's expansions has made costumes that don't sell that well free for those that didn't buy the latest game or even get those DLC yet unlockable as any other costume. You can expect that from any fighting game that does expansions on top of that(Xrd Revelator only has one set of colors you could buy and 2 ways to get colors in that game)

Leaving Colors behind a ridiculous Survival Mode and then making another option to pay for them is just what the fuck. Even Team Ninja knew how bullshit it was to get the Swimsuit costumes for Christie, Lisa and Tina so they made them so you only had to do Online Matches if going through their main means was too much.
 

d3v

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Yeah but there should be...I don't know...a middle ground?
Even DOA5 through it's expansions has made costumes that don't sell that well free for those that didn't buy the latest game or even get those DLC yet unlockable as any other costume. You can expect that from any fighting game that does expansions on top of that(Xrd Revelator only has one set of colors you could buy and 2 ways to get colors in that game)
And we're only 6 months into SFV. How long was it before DOA5U came out. Who knows what'll happen down the line. The thing is, you can't suddenly make them free too soon lest you end up pissing off those who actually pay for them.
 

Xhominid The Demon Within

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And we're only 6 months into SFV. How long was it before DOA5U came out. Who knows what'll happen down the line. The thing is, you can't suddenly make them free too soon lest you end up pissing off those who actually pay for them.

And? There should be alternate ways without having to make them purchasable. I just gave you a good example with the swimuit challenges to DOA5 Vanilla to DOA5U.

If you want to be pessimistic, you can easily use SFIV as an example since their color schemes always came from Arcade and only Arcade along with Taunts, so why did they go so backwards from that?
 

CyberEvil

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Finally got around to playing Story Mode. It was pretty solid. Just too short. Now back to not touching this game until another major update.
 

d3v

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And? There should be alternate ways without having to make them purchasable. I just gave you a good example with the swimuit challenges to DOA5 Vanilla to DOA5U.
Why would you announce an alternate way to unlock the CPT stuff at this point in time when the point is to help add to the prize pool at Capcom Cup?
If you want to be pessimistic, you can easily use SFIV as an example since their color schemes always came from Arcade and only Arcade along with Taunts, so why did they go so backwards from that?
Colors in vanilla SFIV were mostly unlocked through survival and challenge modes.
 
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