Free Step Dodge

I mean, you don't necessarily need a 4 frame grab. Pick Akira for example and do 3K on Tina when you block 4K. If she attacks, it's a free stun/BT setup. If she backs away, 3K will land ln CH and BT setup.

Do you have a move that causes a hard stun on a BT opponent faster than 16 frames? You can OH it after it too, though that's more towards a read since she can toss in a BT low or crouch back forward.

Or 4 frame throw it, yeah. Throws on a BT opponent can't be broken which is a plus but you have to be on point with that. Pretty risky sudden situation there. Also if she did it mid distance your 4 frame throw might whiff due to throw range.

in the tina/nyo mu, 5p+k and 5p are pretty much all i got, i've been playing this match alot recently with monavandervall (i think that's his name) and that tina 4k is just the bane of my existence, every time i block it I have to deal with the mix up between dash away, 7k, block, or 2h+K