Anti-Rachel strats, tips, and tricks thread.

First of all the lack of lei fang in these "tier" lists is disturbing lol
2nd Ayane on C tier seriously?
3rd Rachel is definetely top 5 in this game in my opinion no1 but even if shes not the very best she is one of them, i believe she will get nerfed, but i hope she wont be too badly... I think a speed decrease or a weight change would be the most reasonables let her keep her blender or make it pseudo but if they decide to nerf more than one thing for her it would be a shame
They definitely need to do something about the risk/reward for the stomp, a weight change would probably be the most reasonable, maybe to mid height so when you guess right and get a launch you can actually do damage.
 

XZero264

FSD | Nichol
Premium Donor
I'm tellin' ya, just make her airthrow only connect when the opponent is launched at full threshold.
This and lowered launch height on her launching throws on Normal Throw and Counter (Hi-Counter I can deal with). You shouldn't be able to get a strike in against super-heavies AND the air throw on anything but Threshold 3 or Hi-Counter launches when they are launched by her throws (or at all really). I just have that problem with her in general, her throw launchers shouldn't be as good as they are (I honestly would expect a change to Leon's, Lisa's, Tina's, and Bass' air throw height requirements if this were to happen to Rachel).

Edit: 1PP against Super-heavies into air throw ON NORMAL ******* HIT is absolute bullshit.

Edit 2: Hm...wrong thread, my bad.
 
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Just change the property of the airthrow so 1. It knds with a guess stomp stayers or whiff stomp on techers giving 0-+2 on whiiff, whatever one sounds more reasonable.
or
2. reduce the bounce height on airthrow so only 6PK will hit and 9P will whiff, with the 6PK not letting her to stomp afterwards on tech (2K comes out instead) unless they stay grounded.
or
3. change the airthrow notation to 41236T and make it so she reaches diagonally upward like tinas 41236T so she has to throw straight away after a launch for CB only and won't work on her grapple throw.
 

vINv

Active Member
this forum is un belivble its like hajin said learn how 2 fight the char instead of calling for nerfs blows my mind i think if recklessly throwing highs on a crush hevy char u deserve to b air thrown and stomped doa ppl have to use some common sense:/ sorry if that comes off rude i come from tekken and they dont belive in nerfs
 

vINv

Active Member
i ply tekken have for awhile they dont just nerf because ppl whine they nerf if its broken and the production team says so i friends withe the guys in so cal usa best tekken players jfj cain ares sonken suiken nekio brosen etc pt is ppl need to ge better and whine less
 
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Raze

Member
She forces nitaku, people can't deal with it. If people are gonna complain about something it should be the fact that low circular sweeps force nitaku on normal hit, not that Rachel has a grab mix up, air throws, or fuzzyable grab strings. Mashing out flowcharts doesn't work when you're in nitaku...
 

KingGhidorah

Well-Known Member
Maybe in another month or so all this Rachel talk will disappear, or I'm just hopelessly dreaming. Oh well, either way... AYANE FOR LIFE!!!

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i ply tekken have for awhile they dont just nerf because ppl whine they nerf if its broken and the production team says so i friends withe the guys in so cal usa best tekken players jfj cain ares sonken suiken nekio brosen etc pt is ppl need to ge better and whine less
There's no way you are best friends with bronson etc if you can't even spell their name right.
 

vINv

Active Member
never said best friends but i do know sonkend gpo3 personally daneil escabar best leo in the country and ive played with just frame james and gotten tips from aris sonken know bronsen idgaf about the spelling stay on subject the point i was making is to many doa babies press buttons before figuring out the frames i litterally do brain dead frame frame traps for a good amount of my wins><
 

vINv

Active Member
She forces nitaku, people can't deal with it. If people are gonna complain about something it should be the fact that low circular sweeps force nitaku on normal hit, not that Rachel has a grab mix up, air throws, or fuzzyable grab strings. Mashing out flowcharts doesn't work when you're in nitaku...
anticpate your oppent by noticing there attack patterns most grapple players have 1 u have to ply more on reaction and less on guess vs rachel thats pretty much the size of it
 

vINv

Active Member
oremei this is why no one takes this game seriously u try to b sincere and pply r a holes u guys can cry for all ur nerfs so this game can devolve the way mk did XD and fyi i h8 gta
 

AkaShocka

Well-Known Member
There is other ways to beat Rachel instead of "pick Christie" or "pick a VF character". I realized keeping her under pressure works. I was Lisa, yes Lisa, a very slow character, and I just kept this Rachel player under pressure and he couldn't do anything. Now he wasn't a scrub he was a decent player. But all I did was keep him in mixups left and right. Yea he got me here and there in some rounds but he didn't win 1 round. I guess that works against Rachel.
 

Prince Adon

Best in the World!!!
Premium Donor
@Awesmic, every post I make lately you seem to act like I'm always attacking YOU. Stop responding to my post with that attitude. You know how I feel about you and if I was talking about you I would let you know. Now seriously just stop.

On another note my problem with the Rachel bitching is most of the people who is bitching about her doesn't know why they are besides the fact they lose to her. If you're going to whine nerf I suggest you give a logical suggestion that may fix the character to being good without whatever is "bad" about her. If you can't do that(which most of you can't obviously) don't be yelling nerfs, or buffs. That's how games get ruined.
 
@Awesmic, every post I make lately you seem to act like I'm always attacking YOU. Stop responding to my post with that attitude. You know how I feel about you and if I was talking about you I would let you know. Now seriously just stop.

On another note my problem with the Rachel bitching is most of the people who is bitching about her doesn't know why they are besides the fact they lose to her. If you're going to whine nerf I suggest you give a logical suggestion that may fix the character to being good without whatever is "bad" about her. If you can't do that(which most of you can't obviously) don't be yelling nerfs, or buffs. That's how games get ruined.
It doesn't help that some of these tournament players say "I don't care if I have to lame people out with Rachel" and that coming from the tournament player who others will be watching and listening to will make them complain about Rachel because this good player says she is so she is.
 
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