So what great tools outside of guessing well did you see Electrified pull off?
A character sucking and being able to win are two different things. No one ever made the claim that she couldn't win. It's just much harder and requires more work, which Electrified and Mamba are doing. They're also taking advantage of the games early life and players lack of punishing.
Before I start,
forgive my sarcastic tone, which you will encounter, but the whole Helena thing has gone way out of proportion and I'm getting sick of it. If you wish to reply, go ahead, but I can not guarantee that I will answer.
Let me ask you this first. What about E-Mann's Kokoro? What great tools did he use other than guessing well?
The whole 'guessing well' excuse is getting old. All matches have guessing. You fail to understand (or remember) that when a move is so-called safe, you still have guessing. If anything, more safe moves is the same amount of (if not more) guessing. You'd have to guess between either attacking from disadvantage to avoid a grab or crush something, sidestepping, blocking, or occasionally even grabbing (if the opponent has an OH).
You people should stop applying logic of other fighting games to DOA when the system is so different. There is no other game that uses this stun system, and with this system, being unsafe doesn't matter that much if you have a bunch of strings that you can mix up and have a bunch of delaying and free canceling to keep someone at a disadvantage, either a real or a mental one. Especially with the smaller hold window.
And you should stop looking at frame data on just block. Helena can get counter hits pretty easily because of the mixups and crushes. Like I said before, the only problem Helena has is getting the first stun in. After that, it's pretty much her game for the whole round. Does someone disagree with this? Have any footage to disprove this? Didn't think so. That does not sound like bottom tier to me.
He played by conditioning Rikuto and doing the opposite of what Rikuto was expecting. What tools he used? He used her 2F+K to crush Rikuto's highs, he used Bokuho a tons of times to crush a lot of things, he went low often so the tank roll wouldn't work and to keep pressure, he used forced wake-ups, her running low K attack, lots of delays and mixups, her grabs that give guaranteed damage, baiting moves.. Oh right I forgot.. That's all "guessing", which no other characters ever have to do, which is why Helena is so so bad... -.-
E-Mann plays Helena too. You think he wouldn't know what's unsafe or how to punish it? Why did E-Mann still have so much trouble against Mamba's Helena if she sucks so much and is so unsafe? How does your argument that they're taking advantage of lack of punishing hold water in this case when they both know the character very well? Oh right.. "Guessing"...
After answering the question I asked at the beginning, let's see how selective you are to downplay Helena. But hey, whatever. Now I'm gonna wait for people to tell me how wrong I am. So before that here's my final word:
Make sure to not believe a word I say. Helena is the new Brad Tier and that's final.
And oyeah.. In before "wtf is a mental disadvantage".
