Drake Aldan
Well-Known Member
Thanks to XZero264's work, quantifying Leon's range is a little easier. Big up to him for documenting move stats.
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Here is the raw distance data from shortest to longest, taken from the game.
Legend:
Command Distance (in meters)
2H+K charged .97
2H+K 1.12
(hold 3)P 1.27
P 1.33
2K 1.33
4K charged 1.44
6P+K charged 1.48
6P 1.49
3P 1.5
2P 1.5
1K 1.53
6K 1.55
4P 1.56
K 1.57
SS K 1.57
4K 1.63
4P+K 1.67
H+K 1.74
While Rising K 1.76
9K 1.76
3K 1.78
6P+K 1.79
2P+K 1.8
SS P 1.82
44P 1.84
7P 1.87
214P+K charged 1.87
33P 1.9
1P+K charged 1.9
8P 1.91
8K 1.93
1P+K 1.96
P+K 1.99
66P 2
1P 2.04
214P 2.14
236P charged 2.25
236P 2.39
46P 2.48
66K 2.61
214P+K 2.65
9P 2.68
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Classification of ranges should be easy at this point, but some of the data does not accurately represent the true range of the attack. Each move was tested as such:
Set a Hayabusa dummy in practice mode to record and replay continually holding H. This keeps your measure point still.
Hold back, watching the distance counter, and move to a set distance (approximate as closely as possible).
Hold H to stop idle movement.
(With Leon, it's possible to make fine adjustments backwards by holding and releasing H repeatedly.)
Initiate the desired attack and check if it makes contact or not, then classify it accordingly.
The best way to visualize these ranges is just to go into practice and set up this scenario yourself.
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No Range
These attacks will not hit when Leon is at a distance of 2m. You must be point-blank for these to connect.
(hold 3)P
P
2K
4P
K
Close Range
These attacks hit when Leon is at a distance of 2m, and not above 2.4m. In other terms, this distance is about "one character distance" away. A somewhat helpful visualization is that this is about round start distance before anyone moves.
2H+K
4K
6P+K
6P
3P
2P
1K
6K
SS K
4P+K
H+K
While Rising K
9K
3K
SS P
44P
P+K
2P+K
7P
Medium Range
These attacks hit when Leon is at a distance of 2.4m, and not above 3m. This is about two or so character distances away, just shy of a backdash from starting position.
33P
8P
8K
1P+K
66P
1P
214P
Long Range
These attacks hit when Leon is at a distance of 3m or more. This is about 1.5 backdashes away from starting position. (The following attacks are in order from least to greatest, unlike the above which are in no particular order.)
214P+K charged
46P
236P charged
236P
66K
9P
214P+K
An uncharged 214P+K has a freakish amount of range, to the tune of about 4.05m. How useful this will ultimately be though, I can't say.
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Assess your range carefully, and limit your moves to ones that are in effective range. In other words, if you find yourself whiffing, use a move from a higher range tier, or move closer.
Be very careful that you do not use a move outside of its intended range (unless you are purposely whiffing which is outside the scope of this topic).
Hopefully this will help you connect more attacks and avoid dreaded whiffs. Happy hunting.
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Here is the raw distance data from shortest to longest, taken from the game.
Legend:
Command Distance (in meters)
2H+K charged .97
2H+K 1.12
(hold 3)P 1.27
P 1.33
2K 1.33
4K charged 1.44
6P+K charged 1.48
6P 1.49
3P 1.5
2P 1.5
1K 1.53
6K 1.55
4P 1.56
K 1.57
SS K 1.57
4K 1.63
4P+K 1.67
H+K 1.74
While Rising K 1.76
9K 1.76
3K 1.78
6P+K 1.79
2P+K 1.8
SS P 1.82
44P 1.84
7P 1.87
214P+K charged 1.87
33P 1.9
1P+K charged 1.9
8P 1.91
8K 1.93
1P+K 1.96
P+K 1.99
66P 2
1P 2.04
214P 2.14
236P charged 2.25
236P 2.39
46P 2.48
66K 2.61
214P+K 2.65
9P 2.68
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Classification of ranges should be easy at this point, but some of the data does not accurately represent the true range of the attack. Each move was tested as such:
Set a Hayabusa dummy in practice mode to record and replay continually holding H. This keeps your measure point still.
Hold back, watching the distance counter, and move to a set distance (approximate as closely as possible).
Hold H to stop idle movement.
(With Leon, it's possible to make fine adjustments backwards by holding and releasing H repeatedly.)
Initiate the desired attack and check if it makes contact or not, then classify it accordingly.
The best way to visualize these ranges is just to go into practice and set up this scenario yourself.
====
No Range
These attacks will not hit when Leon is at a distance of 2m. You must be point-blank for these to connect.
(hold 3)P
P
2K
4P
K
Close Range
These attacks hit when Leon is at a distance of 2m, and not above 2.4m. In other terms, this distance is about "one character distance" away. A somewhat helpful visualization is that this is about round start distance before anyone moves.
2H+K
4K
6P+K
6P
3P
2P
1K
6K
SS K
4P+K
H+K
While Rising K
9K
3K
SS P
44P
P+K
2P+K
7P
Medium Range
These attacks hit when Leon is at a distance of 2.4m, and not above 3m. This is about two or so character distances away, just shy of a backdash from starting position.
33P
8P
8K
1P+K
66P
1P
214P
Long Range
These attacks hit when Leon is at a distance of 3m or more. This is about 1.5 backdashes away from starting position. (The following attacks are in order from least to greatest, unlike the above which are in no particular order.)
214P+K charged
46P
236P charged
236P
66K
9P
214P+K
An uncharged 214P+K has a freakish amount of range, to the tune of about 4.05m. How useful this will ultimately be though, I can't say.
====
Assess your range carefully, and limit your moves to ones that are in effective range. In other words, if you find yourself whiffing, use a move from a higher range tier, or move closer.
Be very careful that you do not use a move outside of its intended range (unless you are purposely whiffing which is outside the scope of this topic).
Hopefully this will help you connect more attacks and avoid dreaded whiffs. Happy hunting.
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