System Free Step Dash Cancel Bug

[MasterHavik]

I wanna see what Bass can do.

 

[grap3fruitman]

Just to clarify, no human has managed to do this without assistance from a macro, correct?

For those that may be brushing this off since DOA6 is around the corner, do realize that there is an extremely high chance that FSDC is gonna be in that game as well due to idle frames.

Nah, Team Ninja likes to take anything remotely advantageous to advanced players away. They're cheap so there's only a slight chance we'll see a patch for 5 but I'm almost certain they'll work to remove the glitch from 6 now that they have an idea of the cause and how it operates and since it's obviously replicable.

 

[KasumiLover]

Just to clarify, no human has managed to do this without assistance from a macro, correct?

This is possible to do without macros, you can do it on ps4 with a normal controller xD

 

[DestructionBomb]

Just to clarify, no human has managed to do this without assistance from a macro, correct?


Nah, Team Ninja likes to take anything remotely advantageous to advanced players away. They're cheap so there's only a slight chance we'll see a patch for 5 but I'm almost certain they'll work to remove the glitch from 6 now that they have an idea of the cause and how it operates and since it's obviously replicable.

You can definitely do this normally. You can time Akira's 2H+K for example even on a regular pad.

 

[Shirataki Tsume]

Guys, it's also in Dead or Alive 4, hahaha.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CZucwVxmh8QvBElptt3JraPxZMgccbX4/view?usp=sharing

I don't have DOA4 anymore, so I just downloaded the demo to try it out and let the punishing AI give in.

 

[Raansu]

Guys, it's also in Dead or Alive 4, hahaha.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CZucwVxmh8QvBElptt3JraPxZMgccbX4/view?usp=sharing

I don't have DOA4 anymore, so I just downloaded the demo to try it out and let the punishing AI give in.

I wonder if this is how the AI in doa4 did some of those freaky cancel animations. Also, as much as I hate that game.....dammit do I miss that stage.

 

[KasumiLover]

Guys, it's also in Dead or Alive 4, hahaha.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CZucwVxmh8QvBElptt3JraPxZMgccbX4/view?usp=sharing

I don't have DOA4 anymore, so I just downloaded the demo to try it out and let the punishing AI give in.

Yeah it's in all DOAs apparently I believe xD even Dimensions has it and DOA6 will as long as Master doesn't say anything and as long as NO ONE USES THIS AT EVO

 

[usagiZ]

I wonder if this bug will be considered advanced tech by the community despite it being unintended.
It's kind of interesting when emergent gameplay resulting from glitches are considered part of the 'depth' of a game.

 

[Matt Ponton]

Yeah it's in all DOAs apparently I believe xD even Dimensions has it and DOA6 will as long as Master doesn't say anything and as long as NO ONE USES THIS AT EVO

Team NINJA already knows about the bug.

 

[KasumiLover]

Team NINJA already knows about the bug.

Oh so it's more an issue they don't know how to get rid of it xD

 

[Matt Ponton]

Oh so it's more an issue they don't know how to get rid of it xD

Well, don't know. They might know how to get rid of it now at least since the community has near solid repro steps for them with lots of evidence. Or they just don't care to fix it. Also don't know that even if they want to fix it, if DOA5LR would get a patch, or they might just wait for DOA6 to fix it. Only TN knows.

 

[KasumiLover]

Well, don't know. They might know how to get rid of it now at least since the community has near solid repro steps for them with lots of evidence. Or they just don't care to fix it. Also don't know that even if they want to fix it, if DOA5LR would get a patch, or they might just wait for DOA6 to fix it. Only TN knows.

I don't think they need to fix it now in LR, its a good exploit but tbh its kind of similar to that debris guarantee tech, it's good and has potential but you're not gonna see it very often if at all in real matches unless your JF is en point and you're willing to risk it. Even top players I've seen generally haven't been able to do it back to back consistently so I'm not sure if in future tourneys we'll see several of them xD

 

[Matt Ponton]

Messing around with Tool Assist to see what's possible:
https://twitter.com/FreeStepDodge/status/1014033244235419648

 

[UncleKitchener]

Well, don't know. They might know how to get rid of it now at least since the community has near solid repro steps for them with lots of evidence. Or they just don't care to fix it. Also don't know that even if they want to fix it, if DOA5LR would get a patch, or they might just wait for DOA6 to fix it. Only TN knows.

I'd rather see the time and energy spent making content for release and making the game good tbh.

 

[grap3fruitman]

Guys, it's also in Dead or Alive 4, hahaha.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CZucwVxmh8QvBElptt3JraPxZMgccbX4/view?usp=sharing

I don't have DOA4 anymore, so I just downloaded the demo to try it out and let the punishing AI give in.

Can we get more people testing how far back this goes? DOA2 In the arcade handled free-step different than the Dreamcast and PS2 versions. I'd be curious to see where the glitch was introduced. In DOA2 on Naomi, the free-step was a command. They loosened it up and added the free step button and also analog stick control in the console ports. Manny went back the furthest so far I think and showed off 2U/online but that's based on 3 anyway. I have no idea how to replicate this otherwise I'd test myself. Doubt it works in 1 or ++ but I'd be curious to see what does happen.

 

[GarryJaune]

so，anyone could tell whether the glitch works in doa6？

 

[Raansu]

I don't think they need to fix it now in LR, its a good exploit but tbh its kind of similar to that debris guarantee tech, it's good and has potential but you're not gonna see it very often if at all in real matches unless your JF is en point and you're willing to risk it. Even top players I've seen generally haven't been able to do it back to back consistently so I'm not sure if in future tourneys we'll see several of them xD

I wouldn't consider something that practically breaks the game as good.

 

[KasumiLover]

I wouldn't consider something that practically breaks the game as good.

Tech is tech tho xD I could see an issue if this was not a JF and anyone could do it but it's already hard enough to do to not make it that easy to abuse

 

[Matt Ponton]

so，anyone could tell whether the glitch works in doa6？

We know it does as of the e3 build because it was verified that the e3 build had unholdables. The system that allows for unholdables also is what allows for this bug.

 

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