I Am The Shadow... The True Self... [General Discussion]
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I think a +1 or something small like that guard break from her teleport strikes would create an interesting situation for her if you just tried to sit back and block she would just stack advantage with each strike, it's possible we never saw the hit connect.
Zero Beat
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I like the costume aside from the boob armor, though I think the boob armor looks better in the clip than it does in the concept art. The broken shackles and torn up clothing makes it look like she tried to escape from MIST, which given what little we know of Phase 4 as a character would fit, like she temporarily broke out of whatever mind control is being used to keep her under MIST's control.
Chapstick
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I've been told in the past Kasumi's 33P has the same crushing abilities as Ayane's 4P and this of course would extend to Phase 4. The input is more awkward, it's slower, and has no followups though.
Hmm a followup on it like the second punch in P+KP could be interesting and set her apart from Kasumi a little.
Hmm a followup on it like the second punch in P+KP could be interesting and set her apart from Kasumi a little.
If you crush a wakeup-kick, you should usually get a counterhit which means decent juggle height. Shouldn't you be able to land PP6PK or 6PK as followup at least?
Splendidsafe
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Hi all. I recently decided to play P4 again so I wanted confirmation on something. My friend told me P4 has force techs and pseudo-force techs. Is this true? I've been able to do a few pseudo however I have no knowledge of actual force tech. Thanks.
I admit I have no idea what makes the difference between a "real" force tech and a pseudo force tech, but to list up some moves that can force your opponent up:
, also as direct juggle ender
(done twice)
Tenfu in certain conditions, e.g. after grounding them with 6PK at the threshold. You can test this easily with doing 6PP 6PP 6PK ~ Tenfu K.
, also as direct juggle ender (done twice)Tenfu
in certain conditions, e.g. after grounding them with 6PK at the threshold. You can test this easily with doing 6PP 6PP 6PK ~ Tenfu K.
Chapstick
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A true force tech is Kasumi's 66PP~P+K against a BT opponent. They absolutely cannot avoid getting forced up. A pseudo is like that Phase 4 thing I posted in the combo thread (I couldn't decide whether to post it there or here lol) where you stun them then use 6K twice in a row and delay the 2K followup several frames on the second 6K. If they tech roll they can avoid it.
Zero Beat
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The on block 66K~P+K Tenfu should work like faster version of Ryu's Ongyoin 8P/K/T. Good against people with slow reaction speed, but eaten alive by sidesteps. The punch takes 12 frames, the throw 15, and the kick 23, plus the frames for the cancel itself (Anyone have this info? It looks like it's in the 4-8 frame range).
Didn't knew she's capable of this:
It can be a crush because it crouches some highs and jumping attacks like Hayates 3H+K for example. However, in given situation you are right.
phoenix1985gr
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the funny thing is that its a high and i would guess that during the wake up animation we - they are considered crouching so how did it hit? i never managed to outprioritize with a high before
Zero Beat
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The outprioritizing a high might have something to do with Chifu having a few frames of crouch status, though I could be wrong about that. It can also be used to dodge throws.
BTW, her reindeer costume has texture issues on the skirt, seems to be related to shadow textures due to the texture changing according to the lighting.
BTW, her reindeer costume has texture issues on the skirt, seems to be related to shadow textures due to the texture changing according to the lighting.