The DOA5U "Casual" thread. ^__^

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Jyakotu

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Yes it would be weird and it IS weird that she has more Lisa costumes than La Mariposa. it's a hypocrisy.
Because DOA5's story doesn't really focus on her La Mariposa alter ego. Not once does La Mariposa appear in the story mode. It was a big thing in DOA4, but in DOA5, not so much.
 

Awesmic

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developed? shes confusing as fuck and refuses to pick a side for no apparent reason.
Lisa, confusing? All right, let's see if I can't break down the reasoning for her actions with a little logic.

As you may or may not know, it has been confirmed in the first DOAX that Tina and Lisa were childhood friends before pursuing their careers. That should indicate Lisa has a good soul after spending so much time with such a cheerful person. However, she always had a thing for science. If anything, she's torn between her dream as a scientist while also still remaining relevant to Tina as a childhood friend. In order to pursue both, she had to get involved in the inner workings of what was the former DOATEC, unbeknownst to her the eventual corruption that divided it... all while working under the branch of the DWA sponsored by the same company under the persona of La Mariposa to relate to the dream of her closest friend.

In DOA4 she had a clear conscience that Donovan was going too far with the Alpha project, but for the sake of pursuing her career in science, she had to keep working behind the scenes and put up the charade until the time was right (after all, if she blatantly rebelled against Donovan, she'd be assassinated). And knowing her dual-personality on and off stage, charades are nothing to her.

Given these circumstances, her actions are justified. After all, would you as a notable top scientist leave a project associated with a madman with his own military, a top assassin (or assassins?), and ninjas who will use any means necessary to hunt him down including killing those involved at the drop of a hat? I don't think so... you'd keep it cool, act behind the scenes, and wait for the safest opportunity possible while still making that dough. By that logic, Lisa is doing the smartest thing she can do, while not completely drawing the ire of the Mugen Tenshin's wrath, let alone Hayabusa.
 
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Tyaren

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Yeah, she's a cool design, but Lisa is one of the more developed female characters.

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Project Bokuho

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Lisa, confusing? All right, let's see if I can't break down the reasoning for her actions with a little logic.

As you may or may not know, it has been confirmed in the first DOAX that Tina and Lisa were childhood friends before pursuing their careers. That should indicate Lisa has a good soul after spending so much time with such a cheerful person. However, she always had a thing for science. If anything, she's torn between her dream as a scientist while also still remaining relevant to Tina as a childhood friend. In order to pursue both, she had to get involved in the inner workings of what was the former DOATEC, unbeknownst to her the eventual corruption that divided it... all while working under the branch of the DWA sponsored by the same company under the persona of La Mariposa to relate to the dream of her closest friend.

In DOA4 she had a clear conscience that Donovan was going too far with the Alpha project, but for the sake of pursuing her career in science, she had to keep working behind the scenes and put up the charade until the time was right (after all, if she blatantly rebelled against Donovan, she'd be assassinated). And knowing her dual-personality on and off stage, charades are nothing to her.

Given these circumstances, her actions are justified. After all, would you leave a project associated with a madman with his own military, a top assassin (or assassins?), and ninjas who will use any means necessary to hunt him down including killing those involved at the drop of a hat? I don't think so... you'd keep it cool, act behind the scenes, and wait for the safest opportunity possible while still making that dough. By that logic, Lisa is doing the smartest thing she can do, while not completely drawing the ire of the Mugen Tenshin's wrath, let alone Hayabusa.
Well that explains everything.
 

Me want Kasumi

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LOL I do agree she is all over the place but I think she is portrayed as the character who has made many bad choices and mistakes in the past for her job and is trying to do some good. As for the explosion part I don't think she is gonna be killed off that easily. They would've shown more that she did

Besides if Helena could make it out of the DOA4 explosion I'm sure Lisa could do the same. Besides they wouldn't kill her off right when she started to get really important to the game.
 

Jyakotu

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Besides if Helena could make it out of the DOA4 explosion I'm sure Lisa could do the same. Besides they wouldn't kill her off right when she started to get really important to the game.
Zack did save Helena, though. But I'm sure one of the ninja was able to save Lisa before the final showdown with Alpha-152.
 

Kodachi

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Lisa, confusing? All right, let's see if I can't break down the reasoning for her actions with a little logic.

As you may or may not know, it has been confirmed in the first DOAX that Tina and Lisa were childhood friends before pursuing their careers. That should indicate Lisa has a good soul after spending so much time with such a cheerful person. However, she always had a thing for science. If anything, she's torn between her dream as a scientist while also still remaining relevant to Tina as a childhood friend. In order to pursue both, she had to get involved in the inner workings of what was the former DOATEC, unbeknownst to her the eventual corruption that divided it... all while working under the branch of the DWA sponsored by the same company under the persona of La Mariposa to relate to the dream of her closest friend.

In DOA4 she had a clear conscience that Donovan was going too far with the Alpha project, but for the sake of pursuing her career in science, she had to keep working behind the scenes and put up the charade until the time was right (after all, if she blatantly rebelled against Donovan, she'd be assassinated). And knowing her dual-personality on and off stage, charades are nothing to her.

Given these circumstances, her actions are justified. After all, would you as a notable top scientist leave a project associated with a madman with his own military, a top assassin (or assassins?), and ninjas who will use any means necessary to hunt him down including killing those involved at the drop of a hat? I don't think so... you'd keep it cool, act behind the scenes, and wait for the safest opportunity possible while still making that dough. By that logic, Lisa is doing the smartest thing she can do, while not completely drawing the ire of the Mugen Tenshin's wrath, let alone Hayabusa.
If only TN knew how to illustrate her story this clear lol
 

Russian-chiropractic19

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Given these circumstances, her actions are justified. After all, would you leave a project associated with a madman with his own military, a top assassin (or assassins?), and ninjas who will use any means necessary to hunt him down including killing those involved at the drop of a hat? I don't think so... you'd keep it cool, act behind the scenes, and wait for the safest opportunity possible while still making that dough. By that logic, Lisa is doing the smartest thing she can do, while not completely drawing the ire of the Mugen Tenshin's wrath, let alone Hayabusa.

the only good assassin Donavon had was Bayman, Christie fucks around too much, and whoever he sent after Bayman evidently failed as well. so on the side of incompetent assassins vs mass murdering ninjas you are going to chose these assassins thinking you're safe? Ryu knocked her off a building because he was sick of her shit if she doesn't chose soon shes going to find herself with no allies and and everyone wanting her dead.
 

Jyakotu

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Ryu knocked her off a building because he was sick of her shit if she doesn't chose soon shes going to find herself with no allies and and everyone wanting her dead.
If she would just come to Tina with her issues, maybe she'd still have at least ONE ally. They make a great tag team already anyway.
 

Jyakotu

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because Tina can stop the wrath of the Mugen Tenshin.... riiiiight
Well, when you put it in story terms, then no... BUT, like Awesmic said, Lisa is trying to atone for her mistakes and make things right. Yow saw in DOA5 story that she stopped Project Epsilon from being activated again. She's obviously a protagonist, but the way TN portray her, it doesn't look obvious.
 
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