[Aug 25, 2012] GVN Summer Jam VI - Aug 25 & 26 - Philly,PA (Philadelphia, PA)

[Chris Harris]

Okay for the last time. In the GIF evil could have hit him with 3 different attacks before he could hold out but he didn't.

He could have did 6pkk (the K would be holdable)
He could have done 6k for a knockdown
He could have done CB

Rabies wasn't going to hold. He only held because he saw the PB so he started trying to hold because Evil GAVE him the opportunity to do so.

Yes it sucks that you can struggle out of sit down stuns, however Evil had many different free attacks he could have taken there.

Grap3 doesn't know what he wants and is trying to find ANYTHING to stir up something. Either that or he doesn't know how to convey what he means in a respectful and correct way. Basically the example he used was a lie considering what he was trying to tell people, so yes I'm going to tell you what happened and what SHOULD have happened.

 

[Game Over]

Grap3 doesn't know what he wants and is trying to find ANYTHING to stir up something. Either that or he doesn't know how to convey what he means in a respectful and correct way. Basically the example he used was a lie considering what he was trying to tell people, so yes I'm going to tell you what happened and what SHOULD have happened.

Grap3 has his idea for what he wants DOA5 to be, and ANYTHING he sees that doesn't match that idea just causes him to flip his lid. From what I gather, he wants something close to a VF clone. Personally, I'd like to see DOA continue along a route of being its own game (and not a "clone" of any other fighter) while at the same time, being solid in its own right.

I went into a little detail in an earlier post. Ah, screw it! I'll just quote a part of it:

If what you want is not a VF clone, then you leave holds from stuns in. Now, personally, to improve the system here, I think it would be nice to see extended stuns have some unholdable properties, and attacks landed during the frames of a whiffed hold putting the opponent in an extended stun state (up to max threshold). For example ... opponent gets stunned, immediately low-holds, gets hit by a mid to extend the stun, is now unable to hold for ~15 frames, and the attacker can either go for a critical burst (if fast enough), a fast launcher or knockdown, or jab to extend to max stun threshold and finish however they like. This kind of setup provides a "penalty" for whiffing holds, granting certain guarantees to the attacker. Also, I think the deeper a stun goes, the longer the opponent should be prevented from holding (~15 frames on 1st extend, ~20 frames on 2nd extend, ~XX frames on critical burst).

But, at the same time, he did call someone else a retard or whatever

That would've been me. But no sweat. I pay it no mind. Being around this community for a while, and particularly throughout the "heyday" of DOA4, I've gotten used to people randomly slinging mud my way from time to time. It just seems to be the mindset of some of the people here. They see something they don't agree with, or something they don't like, they tend to flip their lid and type up responses using colorfully unprofessional language that they typically would not use offline.

Oh, the anonymity of teh internets, it just brings out the worst in people ....

 

[lopedo]

Hi guys!

Good games.

 

[BierKlauMeister]

To me, it just seems like grap3 wants unholdable stuns to be unholdable... which i find pretty reasonable.

He may have wanted other things changed in the past, but right now, the only thing he is asking for is keeping truth to the UN in the UNholdable part... doesnt seem that crazy 0_0

EDIT: Oh and another thing, i think Game Over's idea on how to penalize people for holding incorrectly, aka holding low and getting hit mid, is a pretty damn good one, id like to see that implemented in the game.

 

[virtuaPAI]

From playing the gvn build this weekend, unholdable stuns are infact unholdable. Chris is absolutely correct in his break down of the gif. Guaranteed damage could of been had, but another choice of action took place. The game is solid, and will not be shown directly in these vids when no one is playing how doa5 should be played. Side stepping alone changes the meta game, and rarely anyone did it. Trust, this is not Doa4, the game is very good...on a Vf5 status good, but more action packed.

 

[LostSkeleton73]

Are the finals archived? Would dig taking a look.

 

[blasianpersuassion]

To be honest, I don't understand why everyone is getting so irritated. Even though I don't agree with grap3, he is still entitled to his own opinion! Personally, after playing the GVN build the game feels perfect, but everyone needs to remember that Team Ninja can't please everyone. There will always be a group of people who are still unsatisfied, and there's nothing wrong with expressing your opinion.

 

[The HuBBs]

Amazing turnout. Thank you guys so much for coming.

 

[virtuaPAI]

The point was heard. Constantly blasting the game and or Team Ninja is unnecessary. State your point, than move on. We have no need to linger on.

 

[Game Over]

The point was heard. Constantly blasting the game and or Team Ninja is unnecessary. State your point, than move on. We have no need to linger on.

Right.

The problems people are having with grap3 is simply the fact that he just keeps going on and on and on and on and ON and ON and ON and ON ... AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ... AND OOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN ... about the same things over and over, and people are just getting annoyed. And his tendency to sometimes use unfiltered language doesn't help things either.

 

[blasianpersuassion]

Yea, I understand what you guys are talking about, but I don't think everyone should get so heated just because of 1 person. I understand that it annoys you guys, but you all should just ignore it if you don't want to get into a heated argument. Now lets all just move on?

 

[CyberEvil]

Agreed. Let's all move on to productive discussion and give the ignore function a stress test if you feel the need to put someone on blast instead.

Blasianpersuassion, you registering as 'blas' confused the shit out of us when we were generating the pools haha. Couldn't figure out who you were for a good while. Nice to see some of the guys that are behind the other major community site. You were all way younger than I thought you were but that's the same as a lot of us when we started with the older games. Good stuff for coming out.

 

[blasianpersuassion]

Haha xD I got so embarrassed when sorwah yelled, "BlasianPersuasion", i chose "blas" because my nickname is super long imo. Oh and yea I'm only 15 so I was glad Grimmie Time was there!

I think i met you there but, i forgot which guy you were...there was soooooo many people i was kinda overwhelmed and forgot who was who lol.

 

[CyberEvil]

I was the bigger guy running the brackets on the first day. I was mostly off in the corner on the computer Saturday. You likely saw Rikuto or Mr. Wah around me when I wasn't, and I spent a lot of time talking to Tom and Sean from Tecmo. I wasn't super social on Saturday...very busy haha.

 

[blasianpersuassion]

Oh yea, i remember now! Lol you saw me sunday morning when i was getting beat down by Allan, sadly I had to leave after that. Will you be attending Winter Brawl in February, because after Summer Jam I'm going to try my very best to attend many different offline tournaments!

 

[CyberEvil]

I probably will be at Winter Brawl yeah. I typically go to four or five tournaments a year. You stuck around for a good long while so no worries. Keep coming out. Tournaments are a great time all around. We'll get some games in next time.

 

[d3v]

All I want to know is when will the replays be up on YouTube.

 

[blasianpersuassion]

I probably will be at Winter Brawl yeah. I typically go to four or five tournaments a year. You stuck around for a good long while so no worries. Keep coming out. Tournaments are a great time all around. We'll get some games in next time.

Yea of coarse! I guess I will start off trying to attend 3 tournaments per year but I'll eventually start going to more! Oh and will you get DOA5 for both PS3 and 360 or only 360 :O

 

[N0rdicNinja]

Yea of coarse! I guess I will start off trying to attend 3 tournaments per year but I'll eventually start going to more! Oh and will you get DOA5 for both PS3 and 360 or only 360 :O

Dude, you live an hour away from where Blackula and I will be running DoA tournaments on a fairly regular basis, I definitely encourage you to come on out!

 

[CyberEvil]

Yea of coarse! I guess I will start off trying to attend 3 tournaments per year but I'll eventually start going to more! Oh and will you get DOA5 for both PS3 and 360 or only 360 :O

I have the CE paid off for both actually. I'll play 360 primarily but I'll be practicing on both consoles.