Zack's: Beginner Tutorial (DOA5U)

I wish 44KK did the same. i need to check.

Ah. OK, I should use that more often.

Oh what? No I mess up. I meant to say that 236Pk is a good way to get to a bound. Nice 60 frame stun.

Does that bound?

Whoa...that works? I wish his 3P was a high. Another good at the end of a threshold is 236P.

His 3PP at the end of the threshold is brilliant. Go into Duck K, for the relaunch, then 6KH+K

oh I knew that stuff, warrior. good info for those who don't know.

Good stuff Crimson.

When you are Zack, you can never let your opponent get further than mid range from you. After that, there is no way that you can get back to your rush-down phase unless you use his safe moves to get closer or even his 4K, that has immense range. Saying this, I don't mean that he is useless as a character against spacing characters, but look at Fei Long from SFIV, he always has a way to get in to his opponent from long range, even though he is a rush down character.

Zack players can barely every leave the mix up game as well because he doesn't have any natural mixups and his moves are usually mids, putting the "Kick spammer" image in peoples heads.

Hope this helped you guys.

No problem it's what I do man. What do you think of his 3P+K btw?

ok, man, I just wanted to know what was up. I thought I didn't know something. Thanks for the info on his bounds and the usage of them.

Also me saying bounds are the best in the game was a typo my bad. And no I'm not saying this to save face it was a legit typo. What is wrong with me and this keyborad sometimes?

All right all right you win. I don't want this to turn into a heated debate because you know I respect you man. I don't wanna come off as the super Zack fanboy. That's a bad image. I won't use those lines you mention because I'm better than that and I know what I must do.

Also I agree his bounds aren't that great you can use yeah, but best in the world? Hell no dude. I mean I have to be blind and dumb to say that while people like Genfu and getting to their bounds faster than him with little to no work. I was wrong to think that his bounds were the best in the game until I went checking other characters nutting at how much better and faster they are getting them. Having bounds that only bound at max stun theshold are cool, but having something the bounds without having stun is million times better. 8P just bounds at deep stun so it's the better of the two bounds he has though, but compare to Mila's 9P I'll take her 9p any day of the week. I hope this information is good enough. You're not wrong dude.

All right all right you win. I don't want this to turn into a heated debate because you know I respect you man. I don't wanna come off as the super Zack fanboy. That's a bad image. I won't use those lines you mention because I'm better than that and I know what I must do.

Also I agree his bounds aren't that great you can use yeah, but best in the world? Hell no dude. I mean I have to be blind and dumb to say that while people like Genfu and getting to their bounds faster than him with little to no work. I was wrong to think that his bounds were the best in the game until I went checking other characters nutting at how much better and faster they are getting them. Having bounds that only bound at max stun theshold are cool, but having something the bounds without having stun is million times better. 8P just bounds at deep stun so it's the better of the two bounds he has though, but compare to Mila's 9P I'll take her 9p any day of the week. I hope this information is good enough. You're not wrong dude.

Ok, my g, you do this often, if not, all the time. Please tell me what's up, I am asking you personally because you seem to know an awful lot. This has nothing to do with this tutorial, FYI. I just want to know the great things he's doing, you literally take EVERYTHING this character does and make it seem like the greatest shit since sliced bread.

Don't give me the line, " Oh, I'll get back to this later." Or "I don't have the time." You've been doing this nonsense for the past year with Zack, making general statements about him but NEVER really say anything.

I also meant to say that his bound game is NOT that great. I am all ears to be proven wrong and I will accept it if I am. Please keep in mind that you said, "His bounds are the best in the game." I'll patiently wait for this information.

Zack has faults. I know that. I don't think he is perfect by no flaws. And yeah I get you how he can't rushdown. I can see that as a problem. Btw....you forgot to mention how free he is to crushes. Dude I'm not saying your tutorial is bad it's actually really good man. I also know for a fact his bounds, while not bad, are the best in the game. He doesn't have a bound like Mila or Genfu. I should have also noted he has only one good sitdown stun which is 4k on low holds and crouching foes. He is limited in sitdown stuns.

That what I said in the video. His sit-down stun and bound game is that great considering his heavy mix up game. You named all of 1 move and I named the other in the video. All in all you pretty much just said what I said in the video....

I didn't say he was bad at a long range, I said that he can't rush-down all that well and the man can't. You are naming good tools that can thrown out a mid range but to rush someone down with, no. I am not ignoring what you are saying, I hear you, just show me a rush-down Zack from a long range against a solid player.

Your input is cool, Havik, don't get me wrong. But this character has its faults and some are very big. You need to understand that because you take everything he does and put it on a pedestal.

Zack can make use of his bounds well. They aren't bad. Also Zack can make use of sitdown stuns, but not as good as other characters. 4K on CH is godlike.

Zack is good at long range. 6P+K and 66H+K are both safe and can be thrown at a distance. Glad to see 7K crushing again.