ZeoRebirth (Jacky)

No i still use it.. just not as much as i want to. Hayabusas Ninpo 6p4 though is a great whiff-punish as well as a bait. The only time i see myself using 6K:G is with my stun mixup and if the opponent decides to stay on block. Its very useful IMO... i just can't see myself using it alot on block. Thats just me though :/

It's DOA, make it work. I'm not going to abandon a viable frame trap because it's too slow. That's like telling Master to stop using Hayabusa's +2 214P or +0 ninpo 6p4 because those moves have slow start up's. If a move has multiple uses, use it to the fullest extent. I do understand where you're coming from, because i16 vs someone like sarah or gen fu with i11 mids can be a problem. However adapting properly you can make anything work. The stun system is just one part of the game.

SD.... i agree that Zeo needs to use 6K:G more in his stun game.. what i dont agree on however is using it as a frametrap. Although its +3 on block... its a 16 frame startup. That is wayy too slow to rely on. I'd use it to but i don't want to risk eating a counter hit.

On-topic: Zeo... Jacky has must-hold stuns. You have to use them. His 6P+K and his 6H+K.

Also.. heres a combo thats a bitch to do: 6P+K, H+K46K, 4H+K,4H+K, 1P+KPP

Honestly, I don't really see a fairly short range i20 mid kick as a very great whiff punisher. I've gotten blown up on more than one occasion trying to do that. It's just too slow of a move, I do better with it just fishing safely. P+K works for me oddly enough.

You don't really use 6K:G outside of combo's. It's a great move for frame trapping +2 or +3 on block and it even acts as a launcher and its decent since most people will expect 6k or 33P launcher. You use 4F+K hoping you'll catch your opponent rather than reacting with it to whiff punish but you get the idea of the move. You should use 8p+kp as well, it's a great bound for punishing whiffed counters.

Should've added the fight where the shenanigans ensued on the Home Stage. You know what match im talking about Zeo lolol

Thanks SD.

The first theme is Jacky's VF5 Vanilla theme. 07:54 is his VF5:R theme (the best), 11:44 is his VF5FS theme. The rest are other VF themes

Lol that was pretty vague; just give me all of them.

The theme is cool what is it from?

Good stuff Zeo!