and they can't low hold on the edge of Lost World either because of his new izuna so they might as well just take the damage because you don't want to hold when you're on the edge in stun vs ryu lol.
I am a Hayabusa player with decent (gimmick) offense but I just suck at defense especially in the stun game. I know when I am knocked down and stunned I need to shake out of it but are there other types of stuns where I cannot hold? I need to master the hold game to use ryu to his full potential.