I'm guessing she's A+/S- regarding tiers. I think the patch when Phase is released will probably nerf her. I think TN will most likely nerf her "Twilight Zone" sidestep and maybe OH damage.
hopefully both. her OH damage is oddly ridiculous. and way too strong. her throw isn't even very high i believe so most of her grabs don't make sense.. and i hope they get rid of that gaurenteed back turn grab combo. that's basically what most people do as her. and it takes so freaking much
That roll OH and SS absolutely need to be nerfed. The roll OH's tracking is insane (I've gone behind someone doing it only to have Marie do a 180 in midair and catch me anyway) and I've had someone dodge my mid wake up kick with her 2/8P+K.
Katana, Leifang's OH damage with the 3-parters is 90 and 85 (90-100 with different wall hits) NH.
It's not the fact that it's breakable. Whether it's breakable or not, that's all up to the player using the throw. It's about the timing & precision of it. Kasumi, Leon, MR, Bayman & a few others share this same characteristic. And Kasumi's 66T does more damage than her 236T. The opponent is in BT which means it takes 5 frames to recover & the damage doubles. Which is up to around 90.
I was just testing Leifang's OH's and found something strange. HiC normally adds half the damage of the normal throw. So Leifang's 236T4T46T into an electrified wall should do almost as much as HiC BURST. But instead of adding 42 dmg it only adds 22. :/
Oop I forgot Kasumi's 66T can be unbreakable 1st frame since it's a throw.
Mila, Tina, Bass & Lei Fang also share the same thing when it comes to throws, but yeah Marie Rose has a very good sidestepping command. One of the best in the game right now other than Christie & Hayate to name a few.
The guard break (MR's only move from her command SS) is throw punishable isn't it? I recall it being something like -13 though I'm probably wrong. Christie can evade some tracking mids as well can't she? :/
I couldn't really tell you that. I haven't looked at it myself. I need to buy her & see what's going on with her because there's no question that she's very good. I just tried to be cheap & lazy about her lol xD
unfamiliarity is definitely an issue. but still there are quite a few things she needs nerfed.. I agree on the roll. an her OH's are so damn strong and they track. she is just a pain in the ass in general it's just annoying to fight her.
I looked at her OH's and they're 40 dmg and 44 dmg, 60 and 66 on HiC respectively. That's really not as bad as you're making it seem. Her exp holds however go over 100 with the right juggles though and that's kind of stupid.