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I play both of them. If you have questions feel free to ask.

Thanks, I do not own Helena yet (next week I will) but I'm trying to grasp Rachel's neutral game and pressure,mixups.

I saw you're on PS, unfortunately I'm on Xbox.

Anyways I always say you can win with a basic Rachel, but Helena is far more complicated. So be prepared to get sucked in when trying to learn Helena, lol.

Personally I tend to forget my own playstyle when I haven't played Helena in a while, while Rachel is easy to pick back up.

Speaking of mix ups, Helena is far better at that, but Rachel gets a huge pay off in the form of damage from them.

I have tried Helena before and I understand what you mean by complexity. Rachel is pretty much straightforward and her damage is great, that's why I like her.

Basically she reminds me a lot of my current main character Nyotengu. Only difference so far is that Rachel has an offensive by trading range.

Yeah, seems we kinda like the same characters.

You're right about range. Rachel does have 66K (which gives you +1 on block), her sidestep K and P and her 7p for whiff punishes.

Nyo just has a lot more "gtfo" moves. I have to say Rachel is definitely a better character than Nyo.

Which Rachel sidestep you mean? Her normal or p+k 8/2?

And yes Nyotengu is like a very defensive and slow zoner and struggles up close so a lot of characters can definitely wrekt her in an instant.

Rachel's grabs are delicious. I'm just struggling a lot with her stomp kick game. For some reason i dash to get in close but i keep getting regular 2K.

Oh I meant her P+K sidestep.

The stomp works best if you don't hold the 2. Once you hold down it becomes a regular 2K. Really tho, her stomp is not that good. I mean if you land it, it's great.

There's just a few setups where she's safe after it. If you dash in dry and try to stomp while they tech up, they get a free throw.

Thanks again, I'll look around the forums to find some stomp setups to practice.

Btw when do you recommend to use Rachel's p+K sidestep? I understand is good for moves that do not track but anything else in neutral I should be aware of?

Didn't notice you commented.

Yeah I do recommend it. The mix ups are beautiful and it's useful for closing gaps. The twirl kick can force tech and as a Helena player I love low sweeps. The punch is a launcher that leads to her air throw shenanigans. Also if they get hold happy on your low sweep, launch them with the punch.