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I just noticed something. Helena's 6P and 3PP cancel into BT but BT PPP doesn't?!

Her ground game just requires her taking a risk now just like everyone else. If she guesses right she is rewarded, and if she guesses wrong she gets punished. It's pretty fair. I'm not certain why you think her neutral game is better though.

I just tested it out and you are right. Well then if you have to guess correctly to get out of it she probably shouldn't get +7. If TN nerf's that then I won't complain. Edit: On her 6KK you can SS the second hit that causes the block stun but it is really fucking hard. Especially if you have...

I don't think she needs a nerf. Maybe she is too safe in comparison to other characters but I'd rather they give other characters more safe moves to compensate. I thought her Tenku mix ups having an ender that is +7 was kind of unfair seeing as she has strong mix ups from that stance but then...

Why stop? I was falling asleep until you mention the ball gag.

On topic: I'm actually having a fun time with Moomooju. She doesn't feel BS which is nice. I feel dirty when I play Rachel...

Helena doesn't have a 33 throw so I wouldn't have noticed. Maybe it's just me but does Helena's ponytail look a tiny bit longer than in Vanilla? I thought that might be what caused it.

It's not an infinite but it sure works on people. Just try it that combo flows like butter. From BT F+P 3PP is guaranteed so I cancel into BT after the two guaranteed hits and put them back in the same place they started in lol. Seriously get em to counter, do BT F+P > 3PP4 > F+P, it's pretty...

When she is at the bar talking to Kokoro it is always lying down her back, but this time it was on her shoulder. You could tell it wasn't meant to be there because of how poorly it was animating.

They must have changed Helena's hair physics caused I just did story mode and her ponytail was sitting on her shoulder quivering like a parrot with parkinson's disease when she met Kokoro. Never did that before.

As a grown man those things scare the shit out of me. Imagine if a girl walked up to you in a bar with a pair of tits like that flopping all over the place...

Who the hell thought water balloon tits were attractive in the first place?

BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P > 3PP4 > BT F+P >...

Alpha needs banning but nerfing Rachel? OMG NO!

Slightly off topic but why do all newly created characters get tons of safe moves and all old DOA get almost none?

They're welcome to it! I'll be quite happy if I never see it again.

Bound Combo's: (CH) PP > 9P 9P > 9P 3PPP > 9P 33P > 6PP > 9P BKO 6P4P > PP > 9P

I'm just dumbfounded that she didn't get any buff's to her SDS's to compensate. She's just DOA5 Helena minus PFT.

Anyone else having problems doing her new combo's against human opponents? Every person I fight is so busy spamming mid punch counters all I can do is punch grab for the entire match...

Welcome to Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate or as I like to call it, Is She Alive 5 Ultimate. I'm going to give a run down of the changes Helena has undergone from Vanilla to 5U. New Moves: 6P+KP: This move is an i15/i18 mid punch string and the second hit causes a bound state. The second hit can be...