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  1. Batcommander

    How will you use Lisa in 5U?

    I still use Lisa the same as I did in vanilla--keepaway and zoning. The only difference is that now I don't rely on :1::P: for pressure; i use jabs, :6::P:, and :4::f+k: as my GTFO me move. Even tho her guard breaks are nerfed, she can still apply pressure well on block--i just like annoying my...
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    Do throwdowns contribute to your ranked match score? My broke ass needs to unlock some stages lol

    Do throwdowns contribute to your ranked match score? My broke ass needs to unlock some stages lol
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    Lisa Matchups thread

    Hey guys, lets talk about matchups vs the new cast. I haven't had experience with all of them yet, but i'll give my personal opinion atm. Ein seems fairly even, maybe 5.5 for Lisa. He is just as good at controlling space as you, but he has a really limited arsenal and as far as i know, no real...
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    DOA5U DOA5U 1.03 Patch

    New stage is the bomb, i am very impressed. What a great freebie, thanks TN!
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    Let's Talk Bounds...

    I can get :7::K: CAR :p+k: after the bound, but CAR :p+k: will not hit the opponent, it will whiff. Do you have any advice on how to land it, because it looks cool as hell lol. Same problem with dash in :7::K::K:, it barely misses :( If i ever land :6::P::4::P::P:. i just follow up with...
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    DOA5U Lisa Changes: UPDATED FOR 1.05 26/03/2014

    hey all, long time no see :) There are a couple of hidden buffs that i didn't see listed yet: :K::K::P: has been sped up. It was useless in DOA5 because it was +2 on hit, it is now +14 on hit, making the followups usable. I've been using it today and i find it a fair mixup with :K::K::K...
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    "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" The Lisa Strategy thread

    If you use booty bump at the end of stun, it just knocks the opponent down. Also, BT 7P in 1.03a is not guaranteed at all if you stun an opponent with booty bump--that is, if they slow escape. Booty bump is great, but it still doesn't give a deep stun or anything. Just to add on about 33K...
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    Match Critique thread. (Helping players level up)

    Oh, i just wanted to add, that using 1PK during stun is not that great, since you have 6P8K, which is faster, the same hit level (mid punch>>high kick), and will launch an opponent much higher. Another thing: not sure if you're aware, but if you knock someone into a crate or table, you can...
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    "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" The Lisa Strategy thread

    Honestly . . . nope lol. I think body splash is a high risk/high reward move; there's no viable way to build a strategy off it (but damn, do i wish you could! lol) There's too many ways to avoid it, not to mention it's ass slow. It's best used to catch someone off guard (or more specifically...
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    "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" The Lisa Strategy thread

    Yeah, i think the open/closed stance stuff is crappy too. She received some great things, but like you said, her basic gameplay remains the same (which is not bad at all). Oh yeah, you can't move when you use 8P before the round starts either, so that kinda blows. I still like using it to bait...
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    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    Whoa, you really think Lisa is top 5? :eek: I think Lisa is a great character, don't get me wrong, but i don't think she changed that significantly to shoot her up all the way to the top. She still doesn't have reliable ways to get guaranteed damage, speed is still her biggest liability, she...
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    "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" The Lisa Strategy thread

    First off, love the Roxxy avatar! I take it you are team Rolaskatox?;) On to your other questions, 7P is cool. The BT transitions are still the same, meaning the only one that is non SEable is still PP4. The new 3K4 misses out by one frame, being SE'able to 21 frames (7P is i20). I don't use...
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    "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" The Lisa Strategy thread

    hmm, i have a little trouble understanding you. What happens now is that if you use a move that does more than 20 damage at a specific time during an opponent's wakeup kick, you will crush the wakeup kick. The window is really small. So if an opponent tech rolls, there is no need to crush...
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    "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" The Lisa Strategy thread

    Did some testing, and yeah, crushing wakeup kicks is pretty tough. Against mid, i've had the most success with F+K and qcf P. Against low, 9K as usual. You can use 9K to beat mid kick too, but the timing is difficult. 6K can beat both mid and low kick wakeup, but the timing is tough. I am glad...
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    Time for the lopedo show.

    I am looking forward to this!
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    "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" The Lisa Strategy thread

    Hmm, i guess it really depends on what move you sidestep; i wouldn't try it if you're SS during a string or something for example, but during big moves, it can be pretty effective. Hey guys, were you aware that we can now crush wakeup kicks? If you use a move that does more than 20 damage at...
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    Dealing with wake up kicks.

    Hold up, was this in the new patch? So now we can crush wakeup kicks ala VF? Sweet!
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    Lisa combo's

    Ultimate troll combo: qcfK4, 7P, qcfK4, 7P for CB! Works on normal hit! (lmao ;)) Back to back CBs ftw (or the lose against a good player haha)
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    "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" The Lisa Strategy thread

    I like it a lot tbh, this is probably the new move i play around with the most. It's good for mind games, as the options from BT are so good now. SS P+K 2P or even just BT backdash are good ways to mess with opponents. Also, i think attacks from SS BT are faster than regular SS attacks, but...
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