Rawbietussin
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Sadly, no.
Helena in DOA5U
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Sadly, no.
was a good SDS too.
ninjaguy446
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Helena's loose hair looked different in DOA5U to me. When I played her, it just seemed different then how it is now. What do you guys think?
Omegan Eckhart
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Can you explain to me why at 1:25 Helena does BKO P+K > 4K > 4K > 66K and even though Ein didn't tech it still whiffed and failed to FT?
ninjaguy446
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That was me playing. I did it too early. I did it exactly when he landed so it whiffed.
Omegan Eckhart
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So in order to FT you have to connect the attack after they hit the ground? It can't be done as they are about to hit the deck? Cause currently 66K FT requires no real timing seeing as the opening to land it is massive.
ninjaguy446
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Apparently not. :/ Helena will be fine though.
Omegan Eckhart
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I don't care whether she can FT or not, I'm just trying to understand how it works now. Gonna have to wait to till release I think.
There's gonna be a balance patch so if she turns out to be shit there's always hope.
XV MR ARMANI
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man oh man I want to test BKO T > 66H+K > BKO 4PK > 236PKP sooooo bad lol. I havent even touched my xbox since last tuesday cause I keep thinking about her new shit & the fact I cant test it is bothering me... Sept 3rd where you at? sheesh
KwonJigglypuff
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ninjaguy446
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Hey, 236P+K may no longer be useless! Also, I wonder what we'll be able to get off of 214P+K. Sounds pretty cool that you can get 66KPP off of 236PKP now.
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KwonJigglypuff
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I need to see some footage of it, because it's hard for me to picture it.
And YES for 236P+K finally being useful. Reminds me of my post :
ninjaguy446
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Yeah. At least have some more options though.
Also, do we know what type of stun 66P leaves on CH? I know on NH you can't really combo, but when I got it on CH the stun seemed decent.
BlackxxxMamba
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http://blackmambamoan.blogspot.com/2013/08/helena-doa5u.html
I updated the PFT and Conclusion sections. BKO Sweep is not a good replacement for BKO 6P...
I updated the PFT and Conclusion sections. BKO Sweep is not a good replacement for BKO 6P...
ninjaguy446
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D: That's not good. Do you think it'd be more beneficial for Helena to attempt the 33P4P 6P and hope they tech, do 33P4P BKO 2K, or go for 236PKP/66KPP?
BlackxxxMamba
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A lot of people, and this is only theory, will more than likely still tech up after Handslaps.
Honestly, 33p(f)33p4p is a more damaging juggle ender than 236pkp and Handslaps only do a little less damage than 66KPP. So you might as well just go for Handslaps regardless.
SomewhatMental
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236P+K was +1 for a while now! I really am not thinking of something else, I'm sure...
The unsafety is unnerving. The 66P-and-like going to -9 means it'll be fuzzy pressure all day, and teching will have to be creative.
The unsafety is unnerving. The 66P-and-like going to -9 means it'll be fuzzy pressure all day, and teching will have to be creative.
She was unsafe in vanilla and everyone early on said that she was so un-viable then, too. I wouldn't be too worried. Hopefully people will find some awesome set-ups that don't rely on the force-tech situation as a crutch.
214P+K and the F+K revamp seem pretty tight, btw.
214P+K and the F+K revamp seem pretty tight, btw.
Omegan Eckhart
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@BlackxxxMamba F+K went from being +7 to -1?! Am I reading your blog right?
66P is -9 again the same with BT 6P, but are PP4PP and 4PPP unsafe too seeing as the last hit of these strings is the same animation at 66P?
66P is -9 again the same with BT 6P, but are PP4PP and 4PPP unsafe too seeing as the last hit of these strings is the same animation at 66P?