Sarah is good but her damage is not and she requires too much work for little damage. Since Jacky has better damage and doesn't require a lot work due to his throw punish, i put her in the mid list. Her throw punish is also weak so you would have to rely on poking to get in.Can't say I can agree with that list. Kasumi top and Sarah mid? Yeah... No....
Top: Phase 4, Christie, Gen fu, Momiji, Lisa, Hayate, Kasumi, Ayane
Last time I was here the higher level players agreed Phase was bad because she was immensely unsafe and easily punishable. I also notice Ein is usually absent on these lists.
Eh, Phase-4 has actually done quite decently in tournaments including a major win, and seems more like a "bad on paper" character. Hayate's a character I see get rated highly commonly but rarely see him tear it up in tournaments in DOA5/5U/LR where "tier placement" matters.
Phase 4 near the Top ? I wouldn't put her anywhere up there...... Buuuuuuut its not my list.
Eh, Phase-4 has actually done quite decently in tournaments including a major win, and seems more like a "bad on paper" character. Hayate's a character I see get rated highly commonly but rarely see him tear it up in tournaments in DOA5/5U/LR where "tier placement" matters.
I still believe Phase-4 is low tier overall, but I guess it's more an issue with tier lists not being reflective of average tournament outcomes, undermining the legitimacy of their existence.Yeah but bad in those cases I would credit that to the player's Skill and not Phase 4's Tools. Even if she made it to top 8 several times. I don't think her placement on the tierlist should be revised until another Balance Update.
Out of curiosity, why do you think Phase-4 is Top tier, but Akira, Leifang, Helena & Mila are mid tier...
If you're interested in my oppinion I would place Ein in the Bottom 3. Along side Leon and maybe Eliot.
I still believe Phase-4 is low tier overall, but I guess it's more an issue with tier lists not being reflective of average tournament outcomes, undermining the legitimacy of their existence.
Yeah man where are the Hayate players at? Threads are ghost too.Eh, Phase-4 has actually done quite decently in tournaments including a major win, and seems more like a "bad on paper" character. Hayate's a character I see get rated highly commonly but rarely see him tear it up in tournaments in DOA5/5U/LR where "tier placement" matters.
I actually disagree with around 60% of your list but Phase-4 being high stood out the most to me. Phase-4's stage combo game isn't really better than other "stage combo" characters like Hayabusa and of course Leon.Phase 4 has good control over stage combos with ridiculous juggling but i will remove her. I'm still keeping Akira, Helena and Mila mid. Leifang might go up. I'm glad no one disagreed with high and low.
I actually disagree with around 60% of your list but Phase-4 being high stood out the most to me. Phase-4's stage combo game isn't really better than other "stage combo" characters like Hayabusa and of course Leon.
Good list, although I think Lisa and Kokoro should be higher.I'm bored. So I decided to create my own tier list. Thoughts?
*list*
Honestly I wouldn't say any character is unviable or overpowered at the moment. Some characters need buffs/nerfs more than others, though.