That is their creative direction. That is DOA's motiff and always was. Out of all of us that do not mind the game's sexuality, Aero, which one of us considers these "degraded" characters as less-than? I argue that it is the opposite. Personality-wise, these characters have more depth than the males - a point made by Goarmagon. Funny, how one of the first posts in this thread was
from an actual WOMAN that supported the game's direction.
Males are the game's target audience. Your point is? EVERY piece of media has a target audience. I don't complain to COD developers about the airport scene that depicts Russians as murderers, or to every modern shooter that has Russians as the antagonist. I may love the mechanics of the game but not some of the story decisions. Do I bitch about it so that I may get my way? Of course not. I understand that the market allows me to purchase a game that appeals to me. (That being said, I don't give a fuck whether or not I shoot hundreds of my own people in a COD game. It's not real and I am not an infantile moron.)
It is actually YOU that are removing any other depth of the characters by stating that they exist "
only to be gazed upon and looked at with a lustful eye." I am pretty sure that most of us, again, would disagree with that statement.
Calm down, Anita.
Fun fact, Aero. Say I am at the bar with my folks and I spot a very attractive girl. Or you, out and about and you spot someone you like. Let's be honest, the initial hook is looks. We are objectifying that other person for that moment. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. Why?
We may think initially of just the sexual possibilities but WE UNDERSTAND that there is always more depth to that individual than what the first impression made them out to be. Sexual "objectification" does not take away from a person's inevitable depth as a human being.
With your logic, EVERYONE is guilty of sexual objectification if they find someone attractive.
If you want to complain about real objectification of women, go do some ACTUAL activism for the women in middle Eastern countries.
Last time I checked, men make noises in this game when they get hit as well. Your point is?
In regards to DLC, again. You are not the target demographic, obviously. Don't buy the DLC. You DO have power as the consumer. Don't like what the game has or has not to offer? Do what a responsible consumer does and choose a fighter that DOES appeal to your tastes. You don't even have an argument in this section. It's all irrational, white-knighting emotion.
This game was never "some fucking super pro-feminist agenda." You want a fighter with "normal" looking females? I can't help you with that. Only you can. Go play Virtua Fighter. That seems to be the only fighter for you, then. Even the women in VF aren't as "normal" as you'd like them to be. Do you prefer them to be obese or unattractive?
"We think our audience is intelligent enough to distinguish reality from fantasy." This is not a bullshit excuse. You have no argument here and you have no refutation. You
do not know that these characters "normalize" their portrayal of women. Just like violence. Video games do not make people violent. Studies time and time again have supported this claim. So if games don't make you violent, why do they make you a misogynist? You made a baseless assertion and, in the words of the late Christopher Hitchens, "what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
There is defending it or denying it. I just did. Saying that it is sexist doesn't make it sexist. I guess me and all the other supporters of the game's aesthetics, including women, are sexists.
I leave you with this beautiful video:
...and also, didn't you have an avatar once of a close-up of Ayane's face while she was getting banged? lol
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@werewolfgold ,
People can obsess over whatever characters they wish. It is never our business who jerks or flicks-the-bean to what.
That being said, I love the sexuality in the game but I've never jerked to DOA. I appreciate the aesthetics of the game and that's it.
...and the whole fantasy aspect, that is the point. If it's not the point then we can call into question ANY and EVERY video game for ANY and EVERY unreal portrayal - AKA my Call of Duty example.
It is a free market place. You may not have DLC that you like but you always have the option of whether or not to play THIS game. There is ALWAYS a choice - and it doesn't have to be a choice that you may necessarily like.
That's life in a nutshell and you pointed this out in your post. Kudos to you.
I understand where you stand in this argument but you are at least approaching this discussion with reason.
Seriously, credit to you.
People seem to be fixated on causation.
- Do these games cause misogyny? Watch the Christina Hoff Summers video that I posted.
- Has misogyny existed BEFORE video games? ....Yeah.
- Does misogyny exist now? ...look at the middle east.
What is being done here is that DOA has become a scapegoat.
Just like Weed, Rock and Roll, Comics, D&D, and every other social deviation.
Ladies and gentlemen, I will not lie. My love for DOA began when I was younger. I was infatuated with the beautiful & sexy characters and the smooth gameplay. DOA has always been these 2 things. They CAN coexist.
If it was not for the sexuality aspect of it, I don't think I would be that infatuated with the game. I would probably not be here right now. (Many would like that, I assume. Ha.)
But here I am. I may be "casual" in some regards but I also know how to play the game and
very keen on learning, something some of you do know.
