Official Dead or Alive Xtreme Thread

otnesse

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Oh wow she looks really cool! :eek: I wasn't expecting just randomly like this the new girl to be revealed but I'm definitely happy the reveal happened! :D I love her outfit too I wonder what the Japanese around her says?

Unfortunately, the page is too small to give an accurate translation, so we'll have to wait until tomorrow or Thursday before we can get ANY information at all.

I won't mind new characters themselves, but I DO think they should add in the remaining cut five. For goodness sakes, they added in Leifang despite her being cut earlier, so why not add in the others? Especially Mila and Rachel who were cheated out of a vacation thanks to a completely unnecessary wallpaper poll (or heck, Tina Armstrong even, largely thanks to Shimbori and Tom Lee idiotically implying that Diego was created for "American sensibilities". Ah guys, have you forgotten that Bass and Tina are very patriotic Americans, and in the case of the latter was the actual epitome of the American Dream?! How the heck would those two NOT be part of "American sensibilities" by default).

EDIT: Supposedly, she at least wears attire similar to that of a fairytale princess if Bings translation of part of Famitsu's page is of any indication. If so... I have a funny suspicion that Dreamworks is probably going to come knocking on their door and haul the guys to court, especially when she has the same name as one of their characters (You know, sort of like how Fox Interactive got sued by Sega due to The Simpsons Road Rage copying Crazy Taxi).
 
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UpSideDownGRUNT

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You can't get sued for a name though... not unless that name is the copywriter obviously. Why did they not announce this at TGS? this would have been way more impactful than a crossover costume for Marie lol

Also they're saying her bust is 88 but she looks almost as big as Honoka(yes, I know bust doesn't equal breast size but it still makes no sense)
 

otnesse

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You can't get sued for a name though... not unless that name is the copywriter obviously. Why did they not announce this at TGS? this would have been way more impactful than a crossover costume for Marie lol

Also they're saying her bust is 88 but she looks almost as big as Honoka(yes, I know bust doesn't equal breast size but it still makes no sense)

Eh, to be fair, Fiona might be connected to that crossover costume for Marie in some manner, since her page actually references the crossover in question.

EDIT: As far as suing the name, problem is, Famitsu indicated that she "seems like a princess, but...?", which implies they might rip off Princess Fiona's "secret" from Shrek as well. At least, that's what Bing Translator's translation of the article indicated:
 In the weekly Famitsu October 11, 2018 (released on September 27, 2018), the latest information on the PC game "dead or Alive Extreme Venus Vacations" is available in DMM games. This time, Fiona's presence as a new character reveals! She seems like a princess, but...? Fiona will be coming out of an update on September 27, 2018.
 
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Xerampelinae

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I think the panic that this character isn't Tina is a little shortsighted. This game, even though it's not played on a mobile device, is a mobile game in design through and through. Mobile games thrive on trickle-down releases to prolong the game's lifespan New characters make an assload of money, and where most of their profits come from. Just because there aren't more programmed slots right now for characters does not mean they won't program more. They will keep adding new characters until the game dies to maximize profits. And considering the mobile market and production cycle, that won't be for a long time. It won't always be on the top of the DMM page, but this will be around for a while. And hence, they will need future content - like characters like Tina, Mila, Lisa, Christie, and Rachel. If after the next few releases, the character isn't Tina or another classic girl, then I'll maybe start to worry if they'll show up or not.

From an economic standpoint, I wonder if they decided to release a new girl after Leifang so they could take the profits from the new girls vs. Leifang and compare the numbers? They would never release those kind of internal numbers to the public, but I find that stuff interested and would be curious how much a classic girl made compared to a new girl like Luna, Tamaki, or now Fiona.

As for Fiona, she's super cute. I like the lavender-ish hair. I did want to see Tina, or maybe another older girl (one with curly hair would be great), but I do like her look. I wonder if they didn't announce her at TGS because Famitsu has some kind of exclusive contract for release info? The timing just seems weird if that's not the case.
 

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otnesse

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I think the panic that this character isn't Tina is a little shortsighted. This game, even though it's not played on a mobile device, is a mobile game in design through and through. Mobile games thrive on trickle-down releases to prolong the game's lifespan New characters make an assload of money, and where most of their profits come from. Just because there aren't more programmed slots right now for characters does not mean they won't program more. They will keep adding new characters until the game dies to maximize profits. And considering the mobile market and production cycle, that won't be for a long time. It won't always be on the top of the DMM page, but this will be around for a while. And hence, they will need future content - like characters like Tina, Mila, Lisa, Christie, and Rachel. If after the next few releases, the character isn't Tina or another classic girl, then I'll maybe start to worry if they'll show up or not.

From an economic standpoint, I wonder if they decided to release a new girl after Leifang so they could take the profits from the new girls vs. Leifang and compare the numbers? They would never release those kind of internal numbers to the public, but I find that stuff interested and would be curious how much a classic girl made compared to a new girl like Luna, Tamaki, or now Fiona.

As for Fiona, she's super cute. I like the lavender-ish hair. I did want to see Tina, or maybe another older girl (one with curly hair would be great), but I do like her look. I wonder if they didn't announce her at TGS because Famitsu has some kind of exclusive contract for release info? The timing just seems weird if that's not the case.

Maybe it is shortsighted, and maybe they are going to add more spaces (I know MGSV had something similar and had indicated via datamines the prizes they unveiled for the Event FOBs were the only ones, only to reveal that, no, they are adding more). However, I do have to still be concerned about Tina, especially after this interview where they got a bit into why they created Diego (namely, their claim that he was intended to represent "American sensibilities," which effectively implied they're going to cut Tina and Bass out from DOA6 due to their somehow not representing such despite their characterizations being extremely patriotic Americans).

And believe me, I'll definitely start to get worried if they get to their third OC in a row.
 

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Maybe it is shortsighted, and maybe they are going to add more spaces (I know MGSV had something similar and had indicated via datamines the prizes they unveiled for the Event FOBs were the only ones, only to reveal that, no, they are adding more). However, I do have to still be concerned about Tina, especially after this interview where they got a bit into why they created Diego (namely, their claim that he was intended to represent "American sensibilities," which effectively implied they're going to cut Tina and Bass out from DOA6 due to their somehow not representing such despite their characterizations being extremely patriotic Americans).

And believe me, I'll definitely start to get worried if they get to their third OC in a row.
I don't think they'll remove Bass and Tina but tbh their characterization and stereotype is pretty dated. They're basically both the American stereotype Japan has of americans from the 80s to 90s era, I feel like Diego is a more current era take on Americans but with better design and less stereotyping since he's Mexican/Hispanic and doesn't seem too predictable design wise.
 

otnesse

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I don't think they'll remove Bass and Tina but tbh their characterization and stereotype is pretty dated. They're basically both the American stereotype Japan has of americans from the 80s to 90s era, I feel like Diego is a more current era take on Americans but with better design and less stereotyping since he's Mexican/Hispanic and doesn't seem too predictable design wise.

Dated? Since when is being patriotic and loving your country "dated"? I thought being patriotic to your country, having a love for it, is what America was all about, in addition to freedom? Besides, at least it wasn't the stereotype depicted by, say, Resident Evil, Metal Gear, Dead Rising, or Vanquish where they treat American patriotism as being a bad thing, or praise the likes of, say, Che Guevara like with how they depicted Big Boss and Kazuhira Miller in Peace Walker. If anything, under Japan, being depicted as a complete psychopath or amoral nihilist who shows "patriotism" by obeying literally every amoral order in the book, or even America being horrible due to being a "Capitalist Society" is what we're stereotyped as in Japan (and believe me, I can give you a full list of that if you want).

Either way, the only way we'll find out for sure barring the day of release is the upcoming DOA Fest 2018, since they'll probably unveil the costumes and the new DOA6 character by that time.
 

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Dated? Since when is being patriotic and loving your country "dated"? I thought being patriotic to your country, having a love for it, is what America was all about, in addition to freedom? Besides, at least it wasn't the stereotype depicted by, say, Resident Evil, Metal Gear, Dead Rising, or Vanquish where they treat American patriotism as being a bad thing, or praise the likes of, say, Che Guevara like with how they depicted Big Boss and Kazuhira Miller in Peace Walker. If anything, under Japan, being depicted as a complete psychopath or amoral nihilist who shows "patriotism" by obeying literally every amoral order in the book, or even America being horrible due to being a "Capitalist Society" is what we're stereotyped as in Japan (and believe me, I can give you a full list of that if you want).
Their stereotype is dated, including the whole patriotic thing which they aren't really tbh, besides wearing the flag on their clothes they don't explicitly do anything that shows that they're fighting for america. Theyre just designed to be all American but besides that they don't really do much to say they love America or anything. Same with Eliot, he's a Brit but you wouldn't know it besides maybe his grey shirt and skinny jeans outfit
 

otnesse

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Their stereotype is dated, including the whole patriotic thing which they aren't really tbh, besides wearing the flag on their clothes they don't explicitly do anything that shows that they're fighting for america. Theyre just designed to be all American but besides that they don't really do much to say they love America or anything. Same with Eliot, he's a Brit but you wouldn't know it besides maybe his grey shirt and skinny jeans outfit

Like I said, at least they didn't infer patriotism as basically being like what The Boss indicated in Snake Eater where, if your commanding officer, say, told you to rape and pillage a village just for the sake of it, you obey it to the letter, which seems to be what Japan views as American patriotism based on Resident Evil, Metal Gear, and all of that (and that the nicest they can claim us to be, since there's even worse stuff). Even if it's just wearing a flag on the shirt, at least it's better than advocating committing war crimes or other really amoral stuff just because you're ordered to do so to show patriotism. And don't get me started on Chris Redfield's anti-capitalist stance in Resident Evil 5. Heck, Brock Mason from Dead Rising 1 for that matter. And believe me, I've got a LOT of other examples of what America is stereotyped as in Japan and how they generally aren't good (and quite frankly, I actually PREFER the so-called "dated stereotype" you referred to regarding Tina and Bass over the stereotypes they have in MGS2 and Peace Walker where they if anything demonize us Americans for even EXISTING at all and praise the likes of Che Guevara as heroes). And just as an FYI, if such a view was actually dated, we'd have Hillary Clinton as President or even Bernie Sanders, NOT Donald Trump.

Besides, the only way they'd avert the whole patriotic thing via their attire is if they depicted them like Abbie Hoffman by wearing American shirts yet going out of their way to say anti-American statements.

Either way, like I said, only one way to find out about Tina and Bass's status besides wait for release is DOAFest 2018, since they'll probably unveil the full roster by that time. And hopefully, Tina and the other cut five will still be in DOAXVV. And we'll see how Fiona turns out.
 

Koshosho

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upon realizing that a 3rd party company design beautiful character than team ninja, i'm talking to you, diego.
But I love Diego though....I mean he looks so hot and manly (drools) Anyway Fiona does look pretty and she gives me a delicate princessy type vibe. At first I thought that she would be scottish or irish because of the name but still I like her overall appearance. Hope we see the hd scans soon.
 

Jadeinchains

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Not to mention It's still actually TN that design the new girls in VV It's just a 3rd party company that oversees the game and adding them in...
But yeah hopefully we see HD scans soon, She's supposed to be coming out tomorrow so we should.
 

Yuffie

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I'm super late on this but who the Hell is this Fiona chick?
Like really TN really knows how to piss off fans. It is like they forgot all about the classic characters.
If Tina or Rachel isn't next (assuming more characters are coming) then I truly lost all hope for the Xtreme games.
They ax DOAX3, make a pointless VR version instead of making an ultimate edition, then make VV girls exclusive (although to be fair only Tamaki would fit in DOA6 imo).

I honestly want to know what the Japanese fans think of this to this point.

As far as scans go, there should some in about 10 hours from this post time.
 

otnesse

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I'm super late on this but who the Hell is this Fiona chick?
Like really TN really knows how to piss off fans. It is like they forgot all about the classic characters.
If Tina or Rachel isn't next (assuming more characters are coming) then I truly lost all hope for the Xtreme games.
They ax DOAX3, make a pointless VR version instead of making an ultimate edition, then make VV girls exclusive (although to be fair only Tamaki would fit in DOA6 imo).

I honestly want to know what the Japanese fans think of this to this point.

As far as scans go, there should some in about 10 hours from this post time.

I personally would have said Luna regarding DOA6, mostly because she does imply at one point that she's familiar with Bushido. But yeah, can't say I blame you. Still, the fact that Leifang got in would point to the other cut six coming in in the future. And if that's not enough regarding negative treatment of at least the Xtreme series by Team Ninja, Shimbori actually denigrated the Soft Engine by claiming it was "cartoonish", despite the fact that a large amount of care was taken to make the physics look as close to reality as possible (and if anything, it's DOA6's current physics that look the most cartoonish thanks to it using the outdated [and heavily glitched] DW9 engine.).

And since her page actually does feature the Marie Rose crossover thing, I wouldn't be surprised if she's somehow related to that crossover.

EDIT: So, apparently Fiona's VA is Kaede Hondo. Well, at least it's not the OTHER Princess Fiona's Japanese dub actress (whoever that is), otherwise a lawsuit from DreamWorks actually WOULD be a bit more probable.
 
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