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Darkslay
Darkslay
You keep missing my point entirely...

Even the KI and SG communites are often in knots about the recognition some of the players get even though play is mostly through online in those communities, the standard of what being ''high level'' is will vary between FGs, I think you'll find, being good at SG isn't going to make you be good at Marvel, and viceversa. There are no online-only players, is what I'm getting at.
Sotherius
Sotherius
Well, so you're just saying that i don't exist. Which is not true. And i can tell that there are many good or great players that due to where they live or how they live, they only play online.

THis sounds incredibly elitist and disrespectful "if you don't have a scene on your neighborhood or country, just fuck off and play casually"
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
I will let you know that it's not really that DOA5LR's netcode is "bad" per se compared to most FG's. It's that DOA5LR's gameplay gets hindered heavily online due to the need for solid reactions. No matter how solid "online" is, if it's not 1-to-1 with offline play, it's flawed, illegitimate and doesn't represent how the game is meant to be played. TTT2's online is also lol, though so is SCV's.
Darkslay
Darkslay
Goddamn it, Soth. Why are you making this harder than it has to be? Have you not been paying attention to what I've been saying? I don't have an offline community EITHER, I'd be discriminating myself if what you said just now was true.
Sotherius
Sotherius
So, what do you mean? that the game doesn't need good netcode? because it does! that online players shouldn't improve on the game? Because they do! And @Force_of_Nature A lot of fighting games are just as tight on reactions as DOA is, and they have better netplay.
samuraihachi
samuraihachi
I think what Dogeslay means is that there is no such thing as a perfect net code. It's literally impossibru. Heck, even in a 5 bar setting, there is some input delay. A lot of Japanese players recognize this and prefer to play fighting games at the arcades more. Fighting games are meant to be played offline. Online is really just for practicing or having fun, nothing serious.
Darkslay
Darkslay
No, the game's netcode doesn't factor in at all, what I mean is that believing that online is a necessity for becoming better at the game is wrong.
Darkslay
Darkslay
We all start as online players, however if what you said about getting better is true, you will strive to become an offline player, but again, you probably think I'm just bullshitting you right now because you don't get where I'm coming from, you're just not experienced enough yet.
Sotherius
Sotherius
I would play offline if i could. but that is simply completely impossible, unless someone finds me a job on the USA or some shit.
Sotherius
Sotherius
Online is a necessity for me to play against people, which is the point of a fighting game, and is not just for me. but ok, the solution is just not play the game or just grind the A.I. "casually", i understand.
Sotherius
Sotherius
IF i'm understanding this wrong, please help me, because all i want to play this game more, just that.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
What Darkslay means is that there are no "competitive" DOA players that only play online. I.e. They have played the game offline at some point, usually at some sort of competitive event. I don't play online, and don't even really get in offline casuals that often but almost everyday I'm in the training lab grinding my characters and looking at ways to improve.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
One major thing I find that has been plaguing the DOA community for years are online warriors that take people calling online play "illegitimate" as a personal attack against their own value as a player as opposed to accepting that it's actually reality and how things are.
Sotherius
Sotherius
Yeah, but you know you're going to have those offline matches eventually. My only option of fighting people will be fighting online, there is possibility of me ever playing against someone offline.
Sotherius
Sotherius
Also, online warriors are legitimate in games where there is a decent netcode at place, which is what i'm trying to get at. There is only benefits from having a better netcode.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
If online is all you have, then that's what you have to work with. However, it's doubly important to fully understand and appreciate the difference between online and offline play or you can develop improper habits very easily.
Sotherius
Sotherius
i know and understand, as well as i understand that the gap could, it is in the realm of possible, much smaller.
Camel with 2 thumbs
Camel with 2 thumbs
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GlamTron3000
GlamTron3000
O.O Really? A new character? I was praying and hoping that it may be true. *Joyous sigh* God is good.
Sotherius
Sotherius
I'm really sorry if i made someone upset, but there is only good things about having a good netcode, i just don't understand how it is good for a game to not have a good one.
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