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DOA5LR Analysis of Honoka's Moveset

KING JAIMY

KING JAIMY

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Hey! :honoka:

I've analyzed most of Honoka's moves from her Command Training video, in terms of from which character the move was originally from. I will list both the original input and Honoka's input if necessary. I'm not too sure about all moves, so feel free to correct me. Below is a link to the Command Training video.

:ayane:Ayane

Strikes
236H+K

:bass:Bass

Strikes
3P+K (Critical Burst)
H+K (Bass); 4H+K (Honoka)
2H+K Note: Shares animation with Tina
PK

Throws
First part of SS T (Bass); 6T (Honoka)
4T Note: The animation of this throw comes from Bass' 4T in DOA2 and DOA3
2T
To crouching foe's back 2T

Holds
7H high kick hold

Taunts
63214P+K Taunt
63214P+K H (Alt. Taunt, what she says is perhaps a reference to Xianghua/Leixia from Soul Calibur :))

:bayman:Bayman

Strikes
66K (Bayman); While running H+K (Honoka)
41236K (Bayman); Fourth strike of PPPK (Honoka)
2K to grounded opponent

Holds
6H mid kick hold Note: Shares animation with Leon

:bradwong:Brad Wong

Strikes
PP4P
PPK
46PPPP (Brad Wong); 9PPPP (Honoka)
46PP2KP (Brad Wong); 9PPKP (Honoka)
46PPKK (Brad Wong); 9PPKK (Honoka)
33P
3KPP
BT 4K
Dokuritsu-Ho 4K
Dokuritsu-Ho P+K

Throws
To foe's back 4T (Brad Wong); To foe's back 6T (Honoka)

:christie:Christie

Strikes
3PPP
3P+KPP (Christie); Dokuritsu-Ho 4KP+KPP (Honoka)
3P+KK (Christie); Dokuritsu-Ho 4KP+KK (Honoka)

:ein:Ein

Strikes
33P+K (Ein, Power Launcher); 7P+K (Honoka, Power Launcher) Note: Shares animation with Hitomi and Hayate
7P
KK
H+K (Ein); SS K (Honoka)
H+K
WR K (Ein); BT K (Honoka)
6P (Ein); third punch of PPP (Honoka)
236P Note: Shares animation with Hitomi
2P Note: Shares animation with Hitomi

Throws
33T Note: Has wall version

:eliot:Eliot

Strikes
46P (Eliot); Second part of 2P+K46P (Honoka, '6' and 'P' need to be pressed simultaneously)
BT 4PP

:genfu:Gen Fu

Strikes
1P
6P+K
2P+K46P

:hayate:Hayate

Strikes
33P+K (Hayate, Power Launcher); 7P+K (Honoka, Power Launcher) Note: Shares animation with Ein and Hitomi

:helena:Helena

Strikes
236P+K (Helena); 214P+K (Honoka)
PP2K
8K
66P
Bokuho 6PP (Helena); Bokuho PP (Honoka)
Bokuho 4PK
Bokuho K

:hitomi:Hitomi

Strikes
33P+K (Hitomi, Power Launcher); 7P+K (Honoka, Power Launcher) Note: Shares animation with Ein and Hayate
8H+K (Hitomi); 9K (Honoka)
P+KPP
3H+K
236P Note: Shares animation with Ein
2P Note: Shares animation with Ein

:jannlee:Jann Lee

Strikes
PPP6P
7K
236K
6H+K
P+K or BT P+K (Jann Lee); BT P+K (Honoka)
4PPP (Jann Lee); Dragon Stance 4PPP (Honoka)
Dragon Stance P
Dragon Stance K
Dragon Stance 6P+K (Jann Lee); Dragon Stance P+K (Honoka)

Holds
1H low punch hold
6H jumping kick hold

:kasumi:Kasumi

Strikes
BT 2K

:kokoro:Kokoro

Strikes
PP6P
8P Heichu P+K (Kokoro); 8P~P+K (Honoka)
8P~K (Honoka) Note: The 8P or K aren't exclusive to Honoka, but the whole move in itself is
66P (Kokoro); SS P (Honoka)
66P+K (Kokoro); 66P+K Heichu (Honoka)

:lisa:La Mariposa/Lisa

Strikes
66K6
1KK
1K2K
BT 4P+K
8P+K to grounded opponent

:leifang:Lei Fang

Strikes
6PP
6PK
3P+K (Lei Fang); 4P+K (Honoka)

Holds
4H mid punch hold Note: Has wall version

:leon:Leon

Strikes
46P Note: Shares animation with Tina

Holds
7H high punch hold
6H mid punch hold Note: Shares animation with Bayman

:raidou:Raidou

Strikes
33K (Raidou); Hissatsu-no-Kamae K (Honoka)

Throws
23646T.21423698T.236987412236987412T (Raidou)*; Hissatsu-no-Kamae T.8T (Honoka)
62364T (Raidou); Hissatsu-no-Kamae 2T (Honoka)

:rig:Rig

Strikes
33K
7P (Rig); Dokuritsu-Ho P (Honoka)
Bending Stance 8K (Rig); Dokuritsu-Ho K (Honoka)
H+K (Rig); Dokuritsu-Ho H+K (Honoka)

:tina:Tina

Strikes
4PPP Note: Last punch can be charged
46P Note: Shares animation with Leon
2KKK
2H+K Note: Shares animation with Bass
BT 7PP (Tina); BT PP (Honoka)
While running P
While running K
66P+K (Tina); While running P+K (Honoka)

Throws
8T (Tina); T (Honoka)
While running T
To foe's back T
To foe's back 33T.T

Holds
1H low kick hold

Taunts
63214P+K P

:zack:Zack

Strikes
PP2
6KK
6K2K
66P+K (Zack); 236P+K (Honoka)
H+K (Zack); 8H+K (Honoka)
4K(2)
While ducking PP
While ducking K
While ducking P+K

Holds
4H jumping punch hold

Original moves
Honoka has some unique moves as well:

Strikes
1P+K (Power Blow)
Hissatsu-no-Kamae P (Critical Burst) Note: This move can be charged

Transition into Hissatsu-no-Kamae stance
Some moves can transition into her HNK stance, such as:

Strikes
BT PP
Dokuritsu-Ho 4KP+KPP
Dokuritsu-Ho H+K
While ducking PP
Dragon Stance P
Dragon Stance P+K
Bokuho 6PP
Heichu P+K

Command Training (Honoka)

Credits
Kudos to the following people who contributed to this thread:

- @VirtuaKazama
- @UpSideDownGRUNT
- @Nikotsumi
- @XZero264
- @David Gregg
- @PhoenixVFIRE
- @AsheMann21
- @Nightpup

* Raidou's traditional Underworld Drop has a very long, barely understandable input when written in numbers. Thus, I will provide two alternative ways of saying the input:

1. :236::4::6::h::+::P: :5: :214::268::H+P: :5: :6842::6842::H+P: (Raidou)

2. QCF 46T.QCB HCF T.FCB FCB T (Raidou)
> QCF = Quarter Circle Forward
> QCB = Quarter Circle Backward
> HCF = Half Circle Forward
> FCB = Full Circle Backward

Hope this helped! ;)
 
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KING JAIMY

KING JAIMY

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VirtuaKazama said:
Nice analysis
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Thank you! Since your main was Lei Fang, am I missing any moves for her? I thought 'to foe's back 6T' is originally from Lei Fang, but I was not too sure. If you know, I can scratch it from my '???' list ;)

EDIT: Updated the list. Forgot about 4H. That move was originally from Lei Fang which Honoka has stolen.
 
UpSideDownGRUNT

UpSideDownGRUNT

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Honoka has Ein/Hitomi's 2P and 236P

Also I believe her PL is the same as Ein Hayate and Hitomi as well.

As for 33K I think it could be Eins 33K as his is a similar animation but it might be shared by Rig.
 
KING JAIMY

KING JAIMY

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UpSideDownGRUNT said:
Honoka has Ein/Hitomi's 2P and 236P

Also I believe her PL is the same as Ein Hayate and Hitomi as well.

As for 33K I think it could be Eins 33K as his is a similar animation but it might be shared by Rig.
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Hmm.. I thought 2P was from Zack but after looking carefully again you're right: 2P is indeed from Hitomi/Ein!
I also had my doubts about her Power Launcher. Didn't know it was from Mila, Kokoro, Hayate, Ein or Hitomi. I think we can discuss on this.
I was fairly sure 33K was from Rig since Rig does a crouch-like animation whereas Ein remains standing. Also Rig stretches his leg further in the air than Ein, which I noticed Honoka did too in the video.

EDIT: Updated the list. Moved 2P from Zack to Hitomi/Ein.
 
UpSideDownGRUNT

UpSideDownGRUNT

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Ahh I see, I only recognise Ein's so I immediately thought of Ein.

But I am loving the fact she has the Hokage, I'm interested how much damage it does and if it will remain as a 12f punish throw. Also, since she has it I'm interested to see if she has the wall version.
 
KING JAIMY

KING JAIMY

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UpSideDownGRUNT said:
Ahh I see, I only recognise Ein's so I immediately thought of Ein.

But I am loving the fact she has the Hokage, I'm interested how much damage it does and if it will remain as a 12f punish throw. Also, since she has it I'm interested to see if she has the was version.
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I suppose you mean ''wall version'' instead of ''was version''. If so, that would be so frickin' cool.
In terms of damage, I think Honoka's Hokage will do less damage than Ein's Hokage, due to the fact that 'she is limited to the physical condition of a teenage girl' (quote).
 
VirtuaKazama

VirtuaKazama

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KING JAIMY said:
EDIT: Updated the list. Forgot about 4H. That move was originally from Lei Fang which Honoka has stolen.
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I was gonna say that, but you got it. Also, I think 66P is Phase-4's Chifu P+K. Take a look at Phase-4's command.

EDIT: It's actually Helena's 66P.
 
XZero264

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As much as I want it to be Leon's pretty sure you got it right with Tina's 46P.

And for the sake of complete listing Mila's default PL is 33P+K.
 
KING JAIMY

KING JAIMY

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Nikotsumi said:
4T and to crouching foe's back 2T are both from Bass. (4T is taken from DOA2/3)
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Thanks! The '???' section is gone now.

What I noticed in the Command Training video is that at some point (when the player had to do her BT moves), the player did BT K. It was used in a juggle and had refloat capabilities. Does anyone know which move that is?

EDIT: The move is done at the 7:32 mark in the command training video
 
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synce

synce

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I played Brad and Zack in 4 so I'm liking what I'm seeing. Also I feel like she is the Nyotengu to Zack, Jann Lee, and Brad Wong, so they won't be seen in future DOAs. All is going according to plan at TN...

But seriously how are these leaks getting out? Everything's being leaked except the actual game :p
 
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