Ninja Gaiden Thread

[Brute]

I never understand the hate that Sigma 2 gets. Sigma 2 at least made the game less cheap(In Original 2 in master ninja difficulty you are forced to just spam some infinity moves in order to beat enemies otherwise they kill you easily) and At least in sigma 2 that stair part is playable compare to the slow motion mess that was in 2.

Like I said, Sigma 2 did make a lot of improvements over 2 vanilla, but it also has some areas where it's weaker. This is oppossed to Sigma 1, which is basically just Black but worse. I'll address some of the pros and cons I see in Sigma 2 vs the original NG2 below:

+Chapter Select
+More vivid colors
+Emna's Fang
+Some new, decent boss fights
+Playable stair fight

-Essence/currency system
-Weapon upgrade system
-Palette swap enemies (too much health, nearly immune to-delimb; not challenging, just tedious to hack at for a while)
-Female chapters (break flow, and these characters' movesets need closer examination)
-Ranged weapons (Ryu must always have the bow equipped, and loses access to other types of weapons)
-Weird-looking Ryu model
-No blood (the colored mist is not only unsatisfying, but also weird to look at, and breaks immersion)

 

[Project Bokuho]

-No blood (the colored mist is not only unsatisfying, but also weird to look at, and breaks immersion)

I was disappointed when they reduced they axed the blood/gore in the Sigma games. Like, what were they thinking? l0l

 

[Dark_Blood_NG]

New user here,

probably Fiend Busa and Sotherius remember me from NGRealm forum. I signed up here since I've seen there is a Ninja Gaiden thread, and seems pretty active.

I've played NGB, NG2 and NG3RE in the past. Right now I'm playing Sigma 2 for the first time, on Master Ninja. Theoretically, I'll try to do my best learning this game, then I want to go back to RE, which is probably my favourite but also the one I play the worst. Hopefully I'll become decent.

 

[Fiend Busa]

New user here,

probably Fiend Busa and Sotherius remember me from NGRealm forum. I signed up here since I've seen there is a Ninja Gaiden thread, and seems pretty active.

I've played NGB, NG2 and NG3RE in the past. Right now I'm playing Sigma 2 for the first time, on Master Ninja. Theoretically, I'll try to do my best learning this game, then I want to go back to RE, which is probably my favourite but also the one I play the worst. Hopefully I'll become decent.

Hey,

What's up man! I remember you

 

[CyberEvil]

I never understand the hate that Sigma 2 gets. Sigma 2 at least made the game less cheap(In Original 2 in master ninja difficulty you are forced to just spam some infinity moves in order to beat enemies otherwise they kill you easily) and At least in sigma 2 that stair part is playable compare to the slow motion mess that was in 2.

Sigma 2 was OK at best. The tweaks ranged from inspired to unbelievably stupid. I enjoyed it but Sigma 2 Plus was far superior aside from the frame rate.

 

[Dark_Blood_NG]

Hey,

What's up man! I remember you

Hey!!!

Sigma 2 Plus was far superior aside from the frame rate.

What differences are between S2 and S2 Plus?

 

[CyberEvil]

They added the blood and gore back in and made some camera tweaks mainly. Just backtracked on some things the original Sigma 2 did that I disliked.

 

[Fiend Busa]

Guess we might get a NiOh 2 before Ninja Gaiden 4?

https://gematsu.com/2017/12/level-5...wants-make-nioh-even-bigger-developer-tidbits

 

[CyberEvil]

Doubtful. But more Nioh in some form, for sure.

 

[Fiend Busa]

Doubtful. But more Nioh in some form, for sure.

Hope you're right haha. Much rather have NG4 >.<

And if they do come out with NG4, they better do something with Jin Hayabusa (reference, voice change, playable character with different moveset???)

Would be awesome.

 

[Radiance]

Wonder why they're focusing so much more on Nioh. Not a bad thing, I actually enjoy it more than NG, but still curious.

 

[Fiend Busa]

Wonder why they're focusing so much more on Nioh

$

Game was a big success from them.

 

[Brute]

Wonder why they're focusing so much more on Nioh. Not a bad thing, I actually enjoy it more than NG, but still curious.

Well, Nioh is the best game of the last decade, whereas the latest Ninja Gaiden was merely competent at best.

 

[Radiance]

Oh okay, just looked at the sales numbers on vgchartz lol. May not see NG4 for some time I guess.

 

[Fiend Busa]

Oh okay, just looked at the sales numbers on vgchartz lol. May not see NG4 for some time I guess.

VGChartz is not reliable

NG3 actually made Tecmo good chunk of money despite the poor reviews.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/n...ecmo-koeis-fiscal-year-earnings/1100-6375666/

 

[Sotherius]

Also, NiOH is the love project of Koei's president... Of course something related to it will be greenlit easier...

 

[Pn33milan]

Imo, after NG3 they don't have as many ideas as before to refresh the series.

I kinda see nioh as a mash-up of discarded ideas for NG.

I don't mean we'll never see NG back again, but maybe it's more reasonable for them to experiment with the nioh formula, before they try again to innovate NG

The only idea they had for NG3 was to make it more "cinematographic" and we all know how much good it did -_-

For the records, I love both nioh and NG, but I'd rather have NG4 now than more nioh. With the game being not even 1 year old and its season pass, I'm settled for a bit more time

 

[Fiend Busa]

It's Ninja Gaiden's 30th anniversary this year!

Smile Hayabusa, smile!!

 

[Fiend Busa]

Ninja Gaiden 4??? PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
https://www.dualshockers.com/dead-alive-nioh-team-ninja-games/

 

[Dark_Blood_NG]

IMO:

Nioh 2 is granted because they already said that they wanted to do it since Nioh has been their greatest success.

"Hayashi-san’s chosen keywords for 2018 are “to gamers all over the world” I don't really like this sentence if the sense of it is "to all type of gamers, casuals included", because Ninja Gaiden is not the type of game that would be suitable for casuals. So that would mean either watered down/casualized NG or no NG at all. Though, they already did watered down NG with NG3 so I would be more inclined to think no NG at all.

I just hope I'm wrong.