KING JAIMY
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Okay lol I've never seen that one. Could you post a video please?
DOA5LR Returning Move Request Thread
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KING JAIMY
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That looks freakin' awesome. That 236PP gives a feint stun (so no slow escaping), opponent has to guess with a hold or risk taking a CB because it looks like going to stun level 3. And that 9KPPPPP looks like a ridiculously good finisher as well.
I think that this is the one.
Answering your question.
KwonJigglypuff
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Why did they cut it ? oO
KING JAIMY
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It might be OP, in terms of dealing too much damage. Zack players might exclusively use that finish which brings down the variety in combos. Also, the animation from 9K to the punches looks a bit clunky as well. Still a good movestring imo, regardless.
Princess Kasumi
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some of those returning moves could be super cheap.
KwonJigglypuff
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I don't see the point of removing a move. This move especially, she's always had it. Doesn't make sense..
KING JAIMY
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*cough* Hayabusa's blue Ninpo ball *cough*
Same goes for 6H+KP. They removed the P from DOA4 to DOA5.
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Ryu Hayabusa- Revert to DOA5 vanilla PP4PK & 4PK with +4 on block (used to be more but +4 is plenty enough).
- Revert KK to DOA5 vanilla at +0 guard break.
- Revert 66T to DOA4 at i17 OH.
- Revert 1T to DOA4 3T at i10 low OH.
- Return to making 7P no longer force ongyoin transition (optional transition with hold 4).
As already suggested by others:
- Give back DOA4 236K with tracking.
- Give back 2H+KK strings.
- Give back optional ongyoin transition on 6K(4)
He does not have a 214K but he also doesn't have a 236K, so might as well keep the input as it used to be. While we're at it, make this move tracking and then just remove the current WR H+K.
No way. His whiff punish capacity is already absurdly good and there's hardly any delay with his current 7P into 6P+K.
The last thing Hayabusa needs is more dumb gimmicks that delude TN into thinking he has legitimate tools unavailable to the rest of the roster. The less of this nonsense, the better.
Wouldn't be hugely opposed to it but I honestly see no need or practical use for this. It provides no legitimate mix-up on block and the in-stun capacity is already matched with current free-cancels.
Jaguar360
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yessss
- Revert to DOA5 vanilla PP4PK & 4PK with +4 on block (used to be more but +4 is plenty enough).
- Revert KK to DOA5 vanilla at +0 guard break.
- Revert 66T to DOA4 at i17 OH.
- Revert 1T to DOA4 3T at i10 low OH.
- Return to making 7P no longer force ongyoin transition (optional transition with hold 4).
As already suggested by others:
- Give back DOA4 236K with tracking.
- Give back 2H+KK strings.
- Give back optional ongyoin transition on 6K(4)
Its not exactly needed, but PP6KP puts Ryu in a pretty good position as a combo ender and would be faster than PP4PK so it could combo at lower launch levels. Also a nice fast string option for the jab that could end in a guard break/ground bounce or a launcher into air throw. (I do realize that you could just free-cancel PP and then do 6KP/6KK afterwards, but there's a lot less delay and hassle with the jab string.)
I don't know. It looks great. Too long of a string maybe?
PP4PK is rarely an ideal juggle anyhow, since you don't get the pushback or great wall combo follow-ups. I see nothing wrong with his current juggle combos, and his current PKK ender is more likely to work and exceed the damage of PP6KP from various launch heights (using 8P lead-ins, etc.)
It's not a valid block mix-up because offline the standalone 6KP is held on-reaction every single time. From PP it would only become more obvious, and would be just as useless as 6KP is now, except slightly moreso since you wouldn't be using it as an awkward spacing tool or oki strategy. I'd rather them somehow make 6KP a useful move in some capacity rather than give the currently useless string to his jabs.
EnvyDesyre
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Pretty much everything I want for Hayate has been said but I would like 6H+K from DOA 3 & the sweep from his old wind dash (with a new notation). Wouldn't surprise me if he got teleport with 6P. He needs it.
Shoutouts to Nereus for this, but I feel that Jacky's Slide Shuffle P+K P needs to be a 2-in-1 like in VF.
Helena's and it's properties (from DOA4).
and it's properties (from DOA4).
Same here, but w/ Zack's stuff.
I caught it in 5U. We cannot use the move, however. Sucks.... I want to use it in LR!
I DOUBLE POSTED!!!!! NOOO!
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