Tag Pairs for DOA5U - what pairs lack / what pairs do you hope to see?

Kronin

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Good thread!

My wishes for the Tag Pairs in DoA5U (partially already fulfilled) are:

Return of Opening/Ending from the previous games:
:genfu:+:helena:(In the old games they had 2 different Openings and 1 Ending)
:genfu:+::bradwong:(In the old games they had a special Opening and Ending)
:tina:+:bass: (In the previous games they had a Second different Opening, absent in DoA5)
:bayman:+:leon: (In DoA3 Bayman and Leon had a special Opening and Ending, missing in DoA2U and DoA4)

And of course all the previous interactions that :ein: and :leon: had in the previous games...

Completion of already existing Tag Pairs

:hayate:+:hayabusa:(Addition of a special Opening)
:hayabusa:+:ayane:(Addition of a special Opening and Ending)
:bass:+:zack:(Addition of a special Opening and Ending)
:bass:+:lisa:(Addition of a special Opening and Ending)
:kokoro:+:hitomi:(Addition of a special Opening and Ending)
:eliot:+:kokoro: (Addition of another special Tag Throw, + Opening and Ending)
:hitomi:+:kasumi:(Addition of another special Tag Throw, + Opening and Ending)
:bradwong:+:zack:(Addition of another special Tag Throw, + Opening and Ending)
:bradwong:+:kokoro:(Addition of another special Tag Throw, + Opening and Ending)
:hayate:+:hitomi: (Addition of 1 special Tag throw -Hitomi with Hayate-)
:leifang:+:pai: (Addition of 2 special Tag throws)

Addition of new original Opening, Endings and Tag Throws for the following pairs:
:kasumi:+:hayate:
:kokoro: +:kasumi:
:hitomi:+:ayane:
:eliot:+:christie:
:eliot:+:ayane:
:eliot:+:rig:
:helena: +:lisa: (They are a standard Tag Team, but they have no special intro/outro or throws)
:helena:+:hayate:
:ein:+:hayate:
:ein:+:rig:
:ein:+:lisa:
:ein:+:eliot:
:leifang:+:kokoro:
:leifang:+:lisa:
:zack:+:helena:
:bayman:+:rig:
:mila:+:leon:
:mila:+:lisa:
:mila:+:hitomi:
:mila:+:bayman:
:mila:+:rig:
:rig:+:genfu:
:rig:+:leon:
:rig:+:christie:
:rig:+:hayate:
:rig:+:zack:
:momiji:+:hayabusa:
:momiji:+:kasumi:
:momiji:+:ayane:
:momiji:+:hayate:
:momiji:+:kokoro:
:momiji:+:rachel:
:rachel:+:hayabusa:
:rachel:+:ayane:
:rachel:+:kasumi:
:rachel:+:hayate:
:rachel:+:tina:
:jacky:+:sarah:
:jacky:+:akira:
:jacky:+:pai:
:jacky:+:jannlee:
:alpha152:+:kasumi:/... (I would like finally to see a boss character like Alpha 152 having special interactions also in the Tag Mode: not necessarily with a specifical character, also if Kasumi and the other shinobi should be the most logical choices...)
 

Rawbietussin

Well-Known Member
Good thread!

My wishes for the Tag Pairs in DoA5U (partially arlady fulfilled) are:

Return of Opening/Ending from the previous games:
:genfu:+:helena:(In the old games they had 2 different Openings and 1 Ending)
:genfu:+::bradwong:(In the old games they had a special Opening and Ending)
:tina:+:bass: (In the previous games they had a Second different Opening, absent in DoA5)
:bayman:+:leon: (In DoA3 Bayman and Leon had a special Opening and Ending, missing in DoA2U and DoA4)

Completion of already existing Tag Pairs

:hayate:+:hayabusa:(Addition of a special Ending)
:hayabusa:+:ayane:(Addition of a special Opening and Ending)
:bass:+:zack:(Addition of a special Opening and Ending)
:bass:+:lisa:(Addition of a special Opening and Endings
:kokoro:+:hitomi:(Addition of a special Opening and Ending)
:eliot:+:kokoro: (Addition of another special Tag Throws, + Opening and Ending)
:hitomi:+:kasumi:(Addition of another special Tag Throws, + Opening and Ending)
:bradwong:+:zack:(Addition of another special Tag Throws, + Opening and Ending)
:bradwong:+:kokoro:(Addition of another special Tag Throws, + Opening and Ending)
:leifang:+:pai: (Addition of special Tag throws)

Addition of new original Opening, Endings and/or Tag Throws for the following pairs:
:kasumi:+:hayate:
:kokoro: +:kasumi:
:hitomi:+:ayane:
:eliot:+:christie:
:eliot:+:ayane:
:helena: +:lisa: (They are a standard Tag Team, but they have no special intro/outro or throws)
:helena:+:hayate:
:ein:+:hayate:
:ein:+:rig:
:ein:+:lisa:
:ein:+:eliot:
:leifang:+:kokoro:
:leifang:+:lisa:
:bayman:+:rig:
:mila:+:leon:
:mila:+:lisa:
:mila:+:hitomi:
:mila:+:bayman:
:mila:+:rig:
:rig:+:genfu:
:rig:+:leon:
:rig:+:christie:
:rig:+:hayate:
:rig:+:zack:
:momiji:+:hayabusa:
:momiji:+:kasumi:
:momiji:+:ayane:
:momiji:+:hayate:
:momiji:+:kokoro:
:momiji:+:rachel:
:rachel:+:hayabusa:
:rachel:+:ayane:
:rachel:+:kasumi:
:rachel:+:hayate:
:rachel:+:tina:
:jacky:+:sarah:
:jacky:+:akira:
:jacky:+:pai:
:jacky:+:jannlee:
:alpha152:+:kasumi:/... (I would like finally to see finally a boss character like Alpha 152 to have special interactions also in the Tag Mode, not necessarily with a specifical character, also if Kasumi and the other shinobi should be the most logical choices...)


Didn't know Brad/Genfu had an opening. Gotta edit that on my first post. Wasn't Ryu/Hayate's ending have both of them saying "Nin" after going in their ninja pose? I'm quite sure Jacky will have opening/throws/ending with Jann and his fellow VF gang (it was already shown he has an intro and throw with Sarah) and Rig/Christie has a new tag intro for DOA5U as well.

I guess TN only chose one opening and ending for every tag teams. If I got to choose between between 2 of Helena/Genfu's opening, it's the one with Helena doing the curtsy bowing.
 

synce

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Damn Kronin you've been thinking about this for a while it seems lol

Do Lisa and Helena really have nothing special? That's weird... And yeah total BS that they never give the bosses tag throws. Many rivals in DOA have them so why not bosses
 

Kronin

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Wasn't Ryu/Hayate's ending have both of them saying "Nin" after going in their ninja pose?

You are right, I meant Opening and not Ending.

I'm quite sure Jacky will have opening/throws/ending with Jann and his fellow VF gang (it was already shown he has an intro and throw with Sarah) and Rig/Christie has a new tag intro for DOA5U as well.

Yes, in addition some things that I included in the list was already inserted by TN (we have seen for example a Tag Throw of Lei-Fang & Pai, or the Endings of Bayman & Leon). I just included exactly everything that I wished since the release of DoA5 (more the interactions of the new characters for DoA5U).

I guess TN only chose one opening and ending for every tag teams. If I got to choose between between 2 of Helena/Genfu's opening, it's the one with Helena doing the curtsy bowing.

I think that you are right: my problem is that the opening that you have chosen is pretty similar to the one that Helena has already with Lei-Fang. However it's also true that it appear much more a real opening compared with the other one of Genfu and Helena (where Genfu stands up)

Damn Kronin you've been thinking about this for a while it seems lol

Do Lisa and Helena really have nothing special? That's weird... And yeah total BS that they never give the bosses tag throws. Many rivals in DOA have them so why not bosses


Well.. I really like the Tag since the times of DoA3, so I'm very interested to it ;)

EDIT: Sending to link it like a request for TN, I edited my previous post, fixing also some mistakes.
 

Rawbietussin

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Damn Kronin you've been thinking about this for a while it seems lol

Do Lisa and Helena really have nothing special? That's weird...


I suppose Lisa hates Donovan like most of the employees who were under his wing (Bayman, Christie) but not as strong as Helena and Bayman's hatred. In DOAD, Lisa's shown to be a secretary for Helena at some point but even then, she's somewhat shown to be playing double-agent with no idea which side should she support.
 

Crext

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I don't get it how Kokoro + Any ninja character makes any sense. I might not know some history behind this though. Also I believe the current Hayate is a clone, and that the real Hayate is posing as Ein in some Dojo because he still got amnesia after the lab accident. This would make him qualify as tag team with Rig and Christie, and also Hitomi which he gets to know in DoA6.

Oh ye, that is so happening!
 

Rawbietussin

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I think that you are right: my problem is that the opening that you have chosen is pretty similar to the one that Helena has already with Lei-Fang. However it's also true that it appear much more a real opening compared with the other one of Genfu and Helena (where Genfu stands up)


I wouldn't mind if it was the one with Genfu standing up. Besides, it was chosen to be their tag opening in DOAD or maybe they could come up of an entirely new one.
 

Rawbietussin

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I don't get it how Kokoro + Any ninja character makes any sense. I might not know some history behind this though. Also I believe the current Hayate is a clone, and that the real Hayate is posing as Ein in some Dojo because he still got amnesia after the lab accident. This would make him qualify as tag team with Rig and Christie, and also Hitomi which he gets to know in DoA6.

Oh ye, that is so happening!


I guess it's what the story implies in DOAD and probably because Ayane has a tag throw with Kokoro.

Hitomi and Ein already knew each other by DOA2-3 regardless that Ein's story was already done by 2.
 

Kronin

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I don't get it how Kokoro + Any ninja character makes any sense. I might not know some history behind this though.

Well Kokoro and Kasumi seems to be the more compassionate girls of the series, very likely was this the reason for the developers to include a new cutscene in DoA Dimensions where Kokoro give help to the runaway shinobi.

For this reason I would like to see them like a real Tag Pair (however I could be wrong, and maybe Kokoro and Kasumi have already a special TagThrow).

About Momiji + Kokoro, I simply thought that I would like to see Momiji and Rachel make at least one Tag Pair with a not shinobi character: so while for fiend hunter Tina could be the more suitable (both of them have an "heavy" fighting style), for Momiji I thougt of Kokoro for a reason similar to Kasumi (Momiji like Kokoro -and Kasumi- is really polite toward her challengers).
 

synce

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I don't get it how Kokoro + Any ninja character makes any sense. I might not know some history behind this though. Also I believe the current Hayate is a clone, and that the real Hayate is posing as Ein in some Dojo because he still got amnesia after the lab accident. This would make him qualify as tag team with Rig and Christie, and also Hitomi which he gets to know in DoA6.

Oh ye, that is so happening!

I guess the only connection between Kokoro and Hayate is DOATEC... but speaking of non-sensical I don't think anything tops Zack x Hitomi! I think this team only formed because they didn't have anyone to pair Zack with on DOA3's character select screen lol

EDIT: Holy crap I just realized it's the same story with Zack x Leon... Zack was the odd man out, so they created that nonsense about Leon somehow knowing Zack :p
 

Kronin

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I guess the only connection between Kokoro and Hayate is DOATEC... but speaking of non-sensical I don't think anything tops Zack x Hitomi! I think this team only formed because they didn't have anyone to pair Zack with on DOA3's character select screen lol

Zack has connection with every girls, you should know it... ;)

EDIT: I agree also with you about Leon, actually the only character with in-plot reasons really connected with Zack is now Helena... I think that I will add it to my list.
 

Crext

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I guess it's what the story implies in DOAD and probably because Ayane has a tag throw with Kokoro.

Hitomi and Ein already knew each other by DOA2-3 regardless that Ein's story was already done by 2.

Hoi, hoi. You didn't read what I said. I said that the current Ein from DoA2, now Hayate, is a clone *plotshocker*. In other words the real Hayate (also Ein for marketing purposes) still has amnesia and have not met the rest of the DoA crew yet (as he has been living in hiding). Of course that will never be the real case, it was just a joke from my part.

I guess the only connection between Kokoro and Hayate is DOATEC... but speaking of non-sensical I don't think anything tops Zack x Hitomi! I think this team only formed because they didn't have anyone to pair Zack with on DOA3's character select screen lol

EDIT: Holy crap I just realized it's the same story with Zack x Leon... Zack was the odd man out, so they created that nonsense about Leon somehow knowing Zack :p

Tbh, the only person Zack would be natural to pair with at this point is Helena because he's her go to guy.
Of course he and Tina also go way back. Now that Bass got Rig I believe you could make Tina / Zack the main tagteam as Lisa could go with Kokoro. Also if Tina becomes president she'll be in the middle of the plot so fast, connecting everyone around her to it as well. All in all there are some left outers in DoA 5, Hitomi for instance no longer has Ein to connect her to the bigger plot, and Leifang, Jann Lee seem to only care about the tournament. I mean even Eliot has more connection to the plot just because he manages to avoid getting slapped by Ayane. That said Jann Lee seem to start getting some rivaly going with Rig, and who knows where that'll end up considering how little we know about Rig as an entity. He has been working as a bouncer, and he might end up as the gatekeeper to DOAtec's hidden organization, thus forcing the ninja back into the tournament to face him (which might have been his agenda all along).
 

Rawbietussin

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Hoi, hoi. You didn't read what I said. I said that the current Ein from DoA2, now Hayate, is a clone *plotshocker*. In other words the real Hayate (also Ein for marketing purposes) still has amnesia and have not met the rest of the DoA crew yet (as he has been living in hiding). Of course that will never be the real case, it was just a joke from my part.


Lol sorry, too many Hayates for my fragile mind to take. I guess that could have been the case if Hayate decided to stay by Hitomi's side and never enter the tournament.
 

Number 13

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creepy shipping? are we ignoring what TN originally did regarding Ayane shipping?
Oh good it seems you don't know the dark side of the DoA 'community' shipping. Your better off not knowing. I'm not talking about what TN officially did with the pairings either. The Hayate x Ayane stuff was tame in comparison.

On another note:
180px-DOAD_Ayane_Eliot_Smack.jpg

Dat slap
 

UpSideDownGRUNT

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I believe the current Hayate is a clone, and that the real Hayate is posing as Ein in some Dojo because he still got amnesia after the lab accident. This would make him qualify as tag team with Rig and Christie, and also Hitomi which he gets to know in DoA6.

It would make more sense to say that Ein is the clone from the lab incident after all Ein is the one who has the tag pose with Lisa. Or maybe Hayate loses his memories again and returns to his Ein status after all his bio on the website suggests something similar.
 

Crext

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It would make more sense to say that Ein is the clone from the lab incident after all Ein is the one who has the tag pose with Lisa. Or maybe Hayate loses his memories again and returns to his Ein status after all his bio on the website suggests something similar.

Sure, it would make more sense, but would be less fun. All in all I just hope they manage to include Ein in a logical way, as a stand alone character. Both for him being in future installments and so Hitomi gets involved in the plot again. Right now she is just... there...

All in all they need to get the story elements integraded more, so the tournament guys and the ninjas are more fused together.
 

David Gregg

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It would make more sense to say that Ein is the clone from the lab incident after all Ein is the one who has the tag pose with Lisa. Or maybe Hayate loses his memories again and returns to his Ein status after all his bio on the website suggests something similar.

As Lisa says in story mode "Project Epsilon...They're reactivating it?!" so this Ein could very well be a clone. Unfortunately they're not changing story mode so there's a good chance we won't know but that is the only logical way I could see him being his own separate entity.
 
Well Hayabusa and Ayane are close friends so that makes scince but Hayabusa always has to be around Kasumi and not because he made a promise to Hayate if you ask me he is the player of the year
 
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