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PhoenixVFIRE

PhoenixVFIRE

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The point I'm trying to make is that if we are sitting here talking about how Leon might not even be in the game and then bringing up Rachel and Momiji making it in is just stupid. Leon has much better chances then them. Chances are characters like Rachel and Momiji won't make it into DOA until DOA6(hopefully) because they are essentially creating a whole NEW character and a move list with them, then comes balancing them and such. Trust me, I want them just as much as the next person, but it's pretty clear they aren't coming into DOA5. Yes, I remember that article from way back and I got really excited because I thought to myself, "How could she NOT get good reviews!?, It's fricking Momiji! and everyone and their mother will want her in DOA(minus Ninja haterz)."

Lastly, yes I know Hayashi has a finicky personality and his decisions about shit change all the time.
 
Relius Starkiller

Relius Starkiller

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Instead of Rachel and Momwhatever how about Raidou and Tengu. Those are characters that really need to make the cut, if only so that Subway can continue his 7 year streak of getting bodied by everyone while talking about how he was the shit using Tengu in DOA2U.
 
TRI Mike

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Good luck trying to convince Shimbori to add a bazillion new characters to the game when it's almost golden.
 
Rikuto

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Hmmm... technically not bazillion... more like, two or three.

The main thing is, they already have the animation and move data for those characters, and we've seen its actually rather easy to import that data from game to game. They would have to construct a new model for Leon, but I think the primary thing that worries Shimbori-san I think is balance... which is unfortunate because balance is probably the last thing a good fighting game should ever be concerned with.

High tier or low tier, I'd rather Leon was available in some form.
 
Sagittarius

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Why do people even want Rachel and Momiji? They're NG characters that fight with weapons, and before you say that "DOA and NG have mixed before!" that made sense. The inclusion of those two doesn't at all and TN would have to write them into the story, a waste of time that could be spent writing and developing new DOA characters.
I'd rather TN make 2 new females then waste time giving those two non-DOA characters full-on, non-weapon based, movesets for the game.
Really, sometimes fanboys can just ruin things. I'd be quite upset if the handful of overly-vocal people clamouring for this got their wish and shafted the rest of us out of getting 2 new, likely more interesting, characters in a future DOA game.

I'm not bashing you for being fans of Rachel and Momiji, but go to their respective series to get your fix of them. They don't fit into DOA, it'd be like if I was spamming TN to put Leifang and Hitomi in NG4.
It's just kind of stupid. In my opinion, anyway.
 
Rikuto

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Rachel is a character with no room for development plotwise and does not even have an established form of martial arts.

Momiji is a slightly more interesting character but if you count everyone available in Dimensions there have been 9 ninjas playable in this series .... we really don't need another one.

I would have made an exception for Kage, but that's only to see Hayabusa get izuna'd to death for once.
 
PhoenixVFIRE

PhoenixVFIRE

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Sagittarius said:
Why do people even want Rachel and Momiji? They're NG characters that fight with weapons, and before you say that "DOA and NG have mixed before!" that made sense. The inclusion of those two doesn't at all and TN would have to write them into the story, a waste of time that could be spent writing and developing new DOA characters.
I'd rather TN make 2 new females then waste time giving those two non-DOA characters full-on, non-weapon based, movesets for the game.
Really, sometimes fanboys can just ruin things. I'd be quite upset if the handful of overly-vocal people clamouring for this got their wish and shafted the rest of us out of getting 2 new, likely more interesting, characters in a future DOA game.

I'm not bashing you for being fans of Rachel and Momiji, but go to their respective series to get your fix of them. They don't fit into DOA, it'd be like if I was spamming TN to put Leifang and Hitomi in NG4.
It's just kind of stupid. In my opinion, anyway.
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The thing is that Rachel and Momiji entering DOA would make more sense than Leifang and Hitomi in NG. I could write them in the story in 2 seconds. They are helping the Ninja's with DOATEC, which btw would NOT surprise me at all. Done. Make Rachel an updated version of Spartan's movelist(since Rachel is big and brutal) and make Momiji just a different version of Ryu's style since she is his apprentice. Honestly, it wouldn't be too difficult. The only hard part would be Momiji.
 
Rikuto

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PhoenixVFIRE said:
The thing is that Rachel and Momiji entering DOA would make more sense than Leifang and Hitomi in NG. I could write them in the story in 2 seconds. They are helping the Ninja's with DOATEC, which btw would NOT surprise me at all. Done. Make Rachel an updated version of Spartan's movelist(since Rachel is big and brutal) and make Momiji just a different version of Ryu's style since she is his apprentice. Honestly, it wouldn't be too difficult. The only hard part would be Momiji.
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Spartan was a knockoff of a knockoff. Let's not resurrect that unholy experiment.

And you know, Momiji WOULD be an interesting character.... if the game didn't already have this many ninjas.
 
Russian-chiropractic19

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Rikuto said:
Spartan was a knockoff of a knockoff. Let's not resurrect that unholy experiment.

And you know, Momiji WOULD be an interesting character.... if the game didn't already have this many ninjas.
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it is made by a company called Team Ninja,its kinda their thing.
 
EMPEROR_COW

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How about no more damn ninjas !
The game has enough damn ninjas as SF has enough damn shotos !

The only ninja I would accept into the game would be Kage from VF because he is well established and playes nothing like any other ninja in DOA.

There are other styles of fighting out there, seriously..

I would like styles like Eileens monkey style or Taka's Sumo style to enter DOA instead.
Which is why I hope the next project after this game would be a full blown DOA5 vs. VF5. It would really set the bar for diversity.

But before all that crap, I really want Leon back. I would rather have Leon back than any new character because he is already well established, style-wise and character-wise.
 
Rikuto

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EMPEROR_COW said:
How about no more damn ninjas !
The game has enough damn ninjas as SF has enough damn shotos !

The only ninja I would accept into the game would be Kage from VF because he is well established and playes nothing like any other ninja in DOA.

There are other styles of fighting out there, seriously..

I would like styles like Eileens monkey style or Taka's Sumo style to enter DOA instead.
Which is why I hope the next project after this game would be a full blown DOA5 vs. VF5. It would really set the bar for diversity.

But before all that crap, I really want Leon back. I would rather have Leon back than any new character because he is already well established, style-wise and character-wise.
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What can I tell you?

If you wanna send a message, hit up the twitter guys. You know they read it.

Just realize they probably won't openly respond because the leaked list topic is pretty much taboo.
 
Sagittarius

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PhoenixVFIRE said:
The thing is that Rachel and Momiji entering DOA would make more sense than Leifang and Hitomi in NG. I could write them in the story in 2 seconds. They are helping the Ninja's with DOATEC, which btw would NOT surprise me at all. Done. Make Rachel an updated version of Spartan's movelist(since Rachel is big and brutal) and make Momiji just a different version of Ryu's style since she is his apprentice. Honestly, it wouldn't be too difficult. The only hard part would be Momiji.
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But... That's incredibly bland and boring on both the moveset and story front. Just a waste of time TN could spend doing more important things than catering to fanservice. Plus, the DOATEC stuff seems pretty wrapped up at this point, I hope so, anyway. The ninja shouldn't be the focus again, another reason we don't need those two.

I could also say that Hitomi wanted to find Hayate so she pursued Ayane to ask her of his whereabouts and bam, she wound up getting mixed in with ninja drama once she found her and stayed to help out in hopes of seeing Hayate somewhere. Oh, and Leifang decided to tag along with Hitomi because they're BFFs.
Anyone can throw out some fanfiction to make a character seem to fit, but it doesn't stop it from being stupid in the context of the game.

Dead or Alive doesn't need anymore ninja, especially not ones from a different series with mere recycled moves as suggested.
As an option as DLC later on? I wouldn't care, but new characters take priority over Ninja Gaiden carry-overs in my book.

Though, your opinion and thoughts on the matter are respected. I won't try and force a change of mind on you, this is just my input on the matter.
 
EMPEROR_COW

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Arnell Long said:
Now its like the Vikings, dead...
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Hes not dead yet ... Just in rehab .. lol
The guy still posts in Famitsu every month on the valhala freaks column

DyByHands said:
Nah, Itagaki got all the rights to it and they are now saying they will do the games on more "devices" and have manga and movies to make it a bigger franchise. Just read about it yesterday on kotaku.
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Do you have a link to the news info ? I'd like to read it. :)
 
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