The Art Style and Graphics Discussion

[KasumiLover]

OMG, yes, DOA2 Ultimate is still such a pretty game! A good case for Argentus, that a more stylized approach might be superior to realistical graphics or more advanced technology. IMHO Ultimate looks better than both DOA4 and DOA5.

I think so too. I don't know why, but it just seemed a lot more stylish and had that wow factor. In the prairie stage, there was this really realistic grass, and every time you reset the position in practice mode, it automatically remapped and actually changed position too, which is so cool. And don't even get me started on the white storm stage and the beach...

 

[SoftCabbage]

And not to forget...

Can I ask what's the actual reason people want her to be removed?

Last time I read it was just because she's too sexy? That can't be true, right?

 

[Chapstick]

Can I ask what's the actual reason people want her to be removed?

Last time I read it was just because she's too sexy? That can't be true, right?

Something about the "male gaze." She kind of was just there to ogle and that was the complaint.

 

[SoftCabbage]

Something about the "male gaze." She kind of was just there to ogle and that was the complaint.

People sure love to spout trivial problem.

Straight female player who's interested in J-Pop idols would be staring and drooling over the heroes too, but nobody complained...

 

[KasumiLover]

People sure love to spout trivial problem.

Straight female player who's interested in J-Pop idols would be staring and drooling over the heroes too, but nobody complained...

It's sadly just double standards. Girls can look and fantasize about the awesomeness that is the male body without any problems, while if a guy looks at a girl in "that way", we're deemed perverts and they think we're only after "one thing".~_~

 

[Chapstick]

All threads seem to lead to this at some point lol

Animal Crossing Happy Home Designer looks so basic but I couldn't stop myself from preordering. ); another example of lower-end graphics ending up looking good thanks to design-

Second pic is from here- http://animalcrossingnewleaflife.tumblr.com/post/125782181704/

Oh I also just remembered Eternal Sonata, that game was gorgeous

Character models looked pretty good.

 

[SoftCabbage]

^ That means you care not only about the graphic, unlike some people out there do.

I myself still enjoy playing 2D low pixel games like Metal Slug and old GameBoy games.

I expect graphic improvements in new games, of course. But more vegetation, more cloth wrinkles, more particles, more shadow depth doesn't mean a better gameplay to me, which is pretty much why I can still stand playing PS3 and PC games in super low graphic settings. Cuz 'low graphic + great gameplay' > 'high graphic + low gameplay'

 

[Juihau]

On environments alone, I think the problem with wide open games is, the more they try to make it look realistic, the faker it looks. Like you can spot the gaps that shouldn't be there in the models, etc. That's why I prefer a softer, "less is more" look like with Sonic Unleashed

I'm pretty delayed with getting around to this, but I thought it'd be fun to play through the Unleashed mod for Generations with Classic Sonic (since modern has too much motion blur) and take some screenshots, to show the game with a bit better graphics.

...It was not fun. Not at all. Those stages are DEFINITELY not designed for classic gameplay. I did get some shots, though.

Antarctic skateboarding, bitches!

Of course, since it is essentially a fan-made port of a game from 2008, there are some things they couldn't do much with. For example, the Great Milkshake River:

Of course, there's always the most important part of Sonic Unleashed...
The food, crafted with such care and attention that it looks almost jarringly out of place in the cartoony world:

 

[Argentus]

Can I ask what's the actual reason people want her to be removed?

Last time I read it was just because she's too sexy? That can't be true, right?

To be fair, those jean panties are a bit much, especially next to the much more normally dressed males (though the males are an oddity in ff for actually dressing normally. That girl wouldn't have looked out of place in any of the past ff games.)

 

[SoftCabbage]

To be fair, those jean panties are a bit much, especially next to the much more normally dressed males (though the males are an oddity in ff for actually dressing normally. That girl wouldn't have looked out of place in any of the past ff games.)

Bah. We had the sexy playful girl Chocolina who wore almost or equally minimalist dress, yet never heard anyone complaining about her, but then again, SE didn't really promote her either.

 

[Tyaren]

Can I ask what's the actual reason people want her to be removed?
Last time I read it was just because she's too sexy? That can't be true, right?

No one wanted her to be removed! Please don't overdramatize.
Many people thought, apparently mostly Europeans, that she was a rather poor, overly sexualized depiction of a female mechanic. There was also much talk about the absence of (strong) female characters in FFXV the weeks/months before and Cindy/Cidney was the first woman, that will have a more important role in the game, to suddenly pop up. The fact that this woman looked like a stripper/prostitute threw many (imho rightfully) off. I think, her design is pretty (I love the color scheme) and she has a very likable character (a confident, cheerful, tomboyish, quick-witted southern gal), but why does she look and move like a stripper/prostitute with the cinematic camera crawling into every crack of her character model? XD

Here a fan redesign, that both looks sexy and as if she were actually able to work as a mechanic and not dance on a pole:

 

[Goarmagon]

That fan design shits all over the official one. Fan service is good but you have to be smart about it or else it looses its effect.

 

[Jadeinchains]

No one wanted her to be removed! Please don't overdramatize.
Many people thought, apparently mostly Europeans, that she was a rather poor, overly sexualized depiction of a female mechanic. There was also much talk about the absence of (strong) female characters in FFXV the weeks/months before and Cindy/Cidney was the first woman, that will have a more important role in the game, to suddenly pop up. The fact that this woman looked like a stripper/prostitute threw many (imho rightfully) off. I think, her design is pretty (I love the color scheme) and she has a very likable character (a confident, cheerful, tomboyish, quick-witted southern gal), but why does she look and move like a stripper/prostitute with the cinematic camera crawling into every crack of her character model? XD

Here a fan redesign, that both looks sexy and as if she were actually able to work as a mechanic and not dance on a pole:

The fan redesign on the right looks really good but I feel like with the sort of people who are vocally complaining about this are the type of people that will just find something else to be offended by in the game. They could just zip up her jacket and maybe extended down to her waist or something if they do decide to change her design (which I doubt and this games already went through so many pointless changes I just want them to release it now) I can see were people are coming from though that this world seems more down to earth in terms of how people look so having Cidney dress like this looks out of place when in past games it wouldn't.

 

[KasumiLover]

I don't understand why people make a big deal out of some sex appeal. I've played DOA so long and have seen so many worse things that I didn't even bat an eye at how she looks. There's plenty of women in real life that dress like that.

 

[Chapstick]

I'm surprised Journey hasn't been mentioned yet.

 

[SoftCabbage]

Either jelly of the character's appearance or can't accept that the particular character is tingling their balls.

 

[KasumiLover]

Tales of symphoniaawn of the new World was another game that impressed me visually.

 

[Tyaren]

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Tales of symphoniaawn of the new World was another game that impressed me visually.

In what way? Looks on a technical level as well as an artistical level pretty unremarkable to me. The original Tales of Symphonia however was imho both an artistical as well as a technical beast on the good old Gamecube. (It also ran in 60fps!)

What I came here to post:
A new gameplay demo of the newest Tomb Raider has been released on Gamescom. For once not just all snow and mountains or darkness and rain. You can actually see something and make out small details. It looks really good:

Hehe, it's as plain as day, why Microsoft bought the one year exclusivity and which other game series they want to rival or even surpass.
That won't be easy:

 

[Jadeinchains]

Wait ... Rise of the tomb raider is only a timed exclusive?! Because that was the one game I was sad about being microsoft exclusive. So if that's true then that is great news because if I am honest Nathan Drake annoys me so much as a character were as I think Lara is amazing. Both games are clearly beautiful though.

 

[Tyaren]

Wait ... Rise of the tomb raider is only a timed exclusive?! Because that was the one game I was sad about being microsoft exclusive. So if that's true then that is great news because if I am honest Nathan Drake annoys me so much as a character were as I think Lara is amazing. Both games are clearly beautiful though.

Yep, just time exclusive for one year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_the_Tomb_Raider
Microsoft wanted to have at least for one year something, that could rival Uncharted in quality...

Here's a great in depth technical analysis of the breathtaking Uncharted 4 demo. It's only something for nerds like me, lol:

Part one:

Part two:

Sooo good!