IGN's 12 Days of DOA5

[PhoenixVFIRE]

What happens if you utilize the environment more than once? I know in DOA4, you could only use the partitions once(well twice technically, but you couldn't continue after the second one) per encounter to stop infinites.
Example: I'll use Mr. Wah's HCT Izuna in the Home Stage.

So, for example, Busa throws the opponent into the ceiling with a HCT Izuna. The opponent is susceptible of being hit while they recover on the ground in the ceiling fall critical state. Busa does a move that on normal critical stun value would do at least 12 critical damage. However, on hit, the opponent is rewarded with a 18 critical damage value (HCB) BUT the threshold maximum is still set to Normal due to the normal damage from danger zones (10 typically), so the user now has 18/25 threshold, which means they can now CB! or launch for the maximum launch height.

Then after the CB you launch you opponent and send them flying into a destructible wall, which then puts them in ANOTHER unholdable sit down and go for another launch which may or may not land them into another destructible object which might also do another unholdable sit down?

If this is possible then wow... that seems very scary unless the attacker is limited to one item(ceiling, wall, object) per encounter.

Or if after the ceiling hit you(you crack the ground when you land) and somehow end your combo to finish the floor for more environment damage.

DOA5 is going to VERY scary in the right hands for environment damage which is what they were kinda going for anyway :/ Perhaps even scarier than the successful Cliffhangers.

 

[Raansu]

lol @ trust issues. You and Grap3, I swear...

Just remember trust goes both ways. You don't support them now when it matters, don't expect them to care what you say in the future. Only reason you got anything at all so far is because they were listening. Some of us don't feel the need to slap the hand away when it reaches out. It's a shame that you do.

Ironic coming from someone who was 10x worse than any of us less than a year ago, especially during the release of the alpha demo. It was a nice 180 you pulled when you got the IPL gig though (good job on proving Julias Rage correct on those arguments )

And yeah, they have been doing a great job listening...to the wrong people. Nerfed the sit downs, nerfed the CB, changed the hold recovery, yeah they listened alright...listened to all the people crying about shit being cheap. I wont be surprised if they nerf the hell out of Jann Lee's dragon gunner setups. The stream chat was filled with nothing bu people calling him "OP" and I'm sure its just as bad on twitter and facebook.

I'm not slapping the hand away either, I'm simply being realistic. Either the game is good or the game sucks. If it's good, then the rental turns into a purchase ad I'll see everyone at NEC to get my ass kicked. If it sucks it goes back to gamefly.

 

[DyByHands]

 

[Deleted member 473]

Mann I keep seeing that MaxDrago guy on Twiiter keep crying to TN talking about nerfin shit and buff Hitomi. Its bugging the fuck outta me....

 

[Rikuto]

Ironic coming from someone who was 10x worse than any of us less than a year ago, especially during the release of the alpha demo. It was a nice 180 you pulled when you got the IPL gig though (good job on proving Julias Rage correct on those arguments )

Ah, so basically I'm only Rikuto if I'm using direct insults instead of telling people how and why they are wrong in a calm manner. Ok, we'll try things your way.

You're a complete moron and have the intellectual capacity of a small rat when it comes to breaking down a fighting game. Actually that's too much credit, because rats have been proven able to solve complex puzzles. You enjoy jumping the gun on every issue and start using personal insults when there is no need to fight. When someone with a superior knowledge base enters an argument, you quickly change subjects like you just did with the 180 comment because you fear they will drag you through the mud.

To your credit though, yes, you are consistent. Consistently an idiot.

See? Still the same Rikuto.

And yeah, they have been doing a great job listening...to the wrong people. Nerfed the sit downs, nerfed the CB, changed the hold recovery, yeah they listened alright...listened to all the people crying about shit being cheap. I wont be surprised if they nerf the hell out of Jann Lee's dragon gunner setups. The stream chat was filled with nothing bu people calling him "OP" and I'm sure its just as bad on twitter and facebook.

Bayman has more setups now than he did at E3, and the sitdowns were never universal. The CB did get nerfed, however better launch height was added mid-threshold to compensate. Hold recovery was changed, however it is still vastly superior to DOA 4 and the damage was toned down greatly.

On top of that we have guaranteed wall game, they got rid of partition bullshit, free re-launches off of breakable objects, free hits/launches off of parries and other setups, etc etc. All of this because they were listening.

I'm not slapping the hand away either, I'm simply being realistic. Either the game is good or the game sucks. If it's good, then the rental turns into a purchase ad I'll see everyone at NEC to get my ass kicked. If it sucks it goes back to gamefly.

You're not being realistic, you're being a dick and you're pretty much ungrateful for everything you've been given. You're incapable of seeing that we may well get more of what we want in the future if DOA 5 does well and you're unwilling to support the game as its making the correct strides because you're incapable of being anything other than a dick at any given point in time.

See, I didn't stop being Rikuto when I began commentating. In fact I was still blasting Manny the entire time while fighting for the changes we want, AND keeping up a semi-professional appearance on stream. I've always been capable of being a dick, I simply lost reason to be for certain situations. You're still acting like a dick because that's literally all you appear to be capable of doing. Go ahead and prove me wrong.

 

[Chris Harris]

Ironic coming from someone who was 10x worse than any of us less than a year ago, especially during the release of the alpha demo. It was a nice 180 you pulled when you got the IPL gig though (good job on proving Julias Rage correct on those arguments )

And yeah, they have been doing a great job listening...to the wrong people. Nerfed the sit downs, nerfed the CB, changed the hold recovery, yeah they listened alright...listened to all the people crying about shit being cheap. I wont be surprised if they nerf the hell out of Jann Lee's dragon gunner setups. The stream chat was filled with nothing bu people calling him "OP" and I'm sure its just as bad on twitter and facebook.

I'm not slapping the hand away either, I'm simply being realistic. Either the game is good or the game sucks. If it's good, then the rental turns into a purchase ad I'll see everyone at NEC to get my ass kicked. If it sucks it goes back to gamefly.

Rikuto's mind changed about the game because he PLAYED THE DAMN GAME.

-You haven't played the game. You haven't seen anything he has or had ANY hands on time with the game.

-You weren't good at ANY iteration of the game to be able to break it down without playing it.

-You are making judgment calls on the game based on what you have SEEN thus far. Which is players playing it like it is DoA 4 when there are options that far surpass that game.

For people like you, I have found no reason to explain to you the better options in the game because you will always find a reason or problem with the game. You are so focused on hating everything you won't ever see anything good with the game. Not that you could anyway because you have yet to play the game and even when you get the game you will find a reason to not like it.

The easiest way for you to get over this is just to not play the game or watch videos. You will never see what you like and that's fine because a game isn't for everyone. Just play VF and be happy rather than try to bring everyone down that is trying to enjoy something.

 

[virtuaPAI]

Stop the damn bickering guys. Its funny that we look at vids and complain much didnt change, but it takes one person to break the barrier to show us there is more to the game than what we see at the surface. Tom brady did it with 3.1(compared to 3.0 and 2), and we never went back. Now we need to give Doa5 the same fair treatment.

 

[Rikuto]

Just thought it would be fun to hop down to his level for a moment and slap him in the face for all the negative BS he enjoys snowballing. I'm quite done with that for now.

 

[Shinigamimatt]

From watching the tournament stream, gotta say the game looks beautiful. Tina looked very capable. There were times where I knew the player was screwing up with her and she still was amazing. I can see where she is headed when someone really practices with her. Rig as well.

I'm mostly anticipating Kasumi, though. She doesn't look like she got much buffs as some other characters. I wonder where that puts her. Maybe it was just people like Woozie playing DOA4 Kasumi. I hope she has some DOA5 tools to compete with.

 

[Pupi18]

Judging from the character info DrDogg gave that its around 10-15 pages I started doing math which can be close or far to the final pages but I will make my prediction. 288 pages of character data, 32 pages on stages, Triangle system, Critical Burst, Sidestepping, Power Blows and Cliffhangers might take around 8-12(might take more or less who knows pages depending the image size used on it and the information) We are already at 332 and I know I'm missing more stuff around so we might be talking around 380-400 pages or so.

My prediction 384 pages (Sorry for making this Off Topic but can't help it XD)

 

[Russian-chiropractic19]

Judging from the character info DrDogg gave that its around 10-15 pages I started doing math which can be close or far to the final pages but I will make my prediction. 288 pages of character data, 32 pages on stages, Triangle system, Critical Burst, Sidestepping, Power Blows and Cliffhangers might take around 8-12(might take more or less who knows pages depending the image size used on it and the information) We are already at 332 and I know I'm missing more stuff around so we might be talking around 380-400 pages or so.

My prediction 384 pages (Sorry for making this Off Topic but can't help it XD)

the current topic seems to be turning into a cat fight so by all means please go on.

 

[Rikuto]

the current topic seems to be turning into a cat fight so by all means please go on.

The "fight" already ended. No one else has any need to get into it.

I like to keep things quick and clean when possible. =)

 

[Pupi18]

the current topic seems to be turning into a cat fight so by all means please go on.

Do as I usually do. Skip around the cat fights and try posting something relevant with the people not involved on the catfight. If there is something in the catfight you might be able to clarify go at it but be warned that it might or might not be taken nicely.

 

[Allan Paris]

I'm mostly anticipating Kasumi, though. She doesn't look like she got much buffs as some other characters. I wonder where that puts her. Maybe it was just people like Woozie playing DOA4 Kasumi. I hope she has some DOA5 tools to compete with.

sWooZie, and the guy he played, along with myself were the only ones who played her at the tournament. I don't know if you are keeping up with the comments in this thread fully or the most recent IPL tournament thread. But there is a reason he played DOA4 Kasumi.

As of right now, more or less, she is DOA4 Kasumi. I'll find out more about her this weekend.

 

[DrDogg]

Judging from the character info DrDogg gave that its around 10-15 pages I started doing math which can be close or far to the final pages but I will make my prediction. 288 pages of character data, 32 pages on stages, Triangle system, Critical Burst, Sidestepping, Power Blows and Cliffhangers might take around 8-12(might take more or less who knows pages depending the image size used on it and the information) We are already at 332 and I know I'm missing more stuff around so we might be talking around 380-400 pages or so.

My prediction 384 pages (Sorry for making this Off Topic but can't help it XD)

Hmm... the first three chapters of the guide are done. That would be what you're referring to as "Triangle system, Critical Burst, Sidestepping, Power Blows and Cliffhangers". Chapter 3 ends on page 30.

 

[Pupi18]

Hmm... the first three chapters of the guide are done. That would be what you're referring to as "Triangle system, Critical Burst, Sidestepping, Power Blows and Cliffhangers". Chapter 3 ends on page 30.

Oh my! *faints*

Edit: Dat Detail

 

[PhoenixVFIRE]

Oh my! *faints*

Edit: Dat Detail

LOL I was like, "Dang! Pupi18 was close!"

 

[Pupi18]

LOL I was like, "Dang! Pupi18 was close!"

So far the prediction of characters pages counting 24 with the rumors its around 288. Plus the confirmed 30 pages its about 318 and consider there might be Game Mode or game modes Chapters (Story, Time Attack, etc), Unlockables and Stages which haven't been discussed so far how many pages are it can be as I said or it might be even more depending how descriptive the writing is which so far seems to be on a great scale of detail.

 

[Mesharey]

New videos:
Kasumi vs. Kokoro on The Ends of the Earth

Eliot vs. Brad Wong on Sanctuary

Eliot vs. Brad Wong on Home

 

[grap3fruitman]

Rikuto's mind changed about the game because he PLAYED THE DAMN GAME. You haven't played the game. You haven't seen anything he has or had ANY hands on time with the game.

It's lovely that a few of you have had that opportunity but most of us haven't and aren't willing to spend hundreds of dollars to demo a game that we may not like and have seven+ years of evidence supporting that.

You weren't good at ANY iteration of the game to be able to break it down without playing it.

Pray-tell sir, where are breakdowns of the game by people who have played it then?

You are making judgment calls on the game based on what you have SEEN thus far.

What the hell kind of argument is this? How else would he judge a game that isn't available to try and only has video available?

Which is players playing it like it is DoA 4 when there are options that far surpass that game.

The whole event is kind of a blur but I don't think I recall you exactly using any of these amazing new options.