A Discussion of sexualised design of male/female characters

[Tyaren]

Guys, big bouncing breasts of girls don't equal big bouncing bulges of men. XD Breasts are a secondary sexual characteristic, genitalia are a primary sexual characteristic. I always have to cringe when people make this unfitting comparison.

This...

(actually even without the bikini...but female nipples have at some point in time turned into some sort of taboo.)

...equals this

So if people want some feature for the men that equals the girls' bouncing breasts it would obviously be bouncing pecs.

This however...

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...equals this:

Both of the last examples are imho vulgar if they were portrayed like that in a game...

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

Honestly, that fighter pack and Ein's ridiculous slut costumes are the only fanservice females/gay players are gonna get. TN have pretty much ditched sexualising the guys for just making 80% all female dlcs and females in general, seriously the males are pretty much jokes nowadays.

On that topic, what is it about Ein's Incubus costume that gets everyone so swoony? it looks horrible to me... even if I WAS interested in guys I don't really see the appeal lol.

 

[Tyaren]

Honestly, that fighter pack and Ein's ridiculous slut costumes are the only fanservice females/gay players are gonna get. TN have pretty much ditched sexualising the guys for just making 80% all female dlcs and females in general, seriously the males are pretty much jokes nowadays.

Imho Rig is just as bad as Ein in that regard, lol. XD A a little comparison:

DOA's men are actually pretty sexualized already.

 

[Argentus]

Imho Rig is just as bad as Ein in that regard, lol. XD A a little comparison:

DOA's men are actually pretty sexualized already.

That cop outfit still cracks me up.
Between
A) Rig always looks oiled up to begin with
And
B) there a no undershirt or vest or anything under that button up

Its totally obvious that's a stripper costume not a cop costume lol

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

Two characters out of what? 14-15? it's not exactly balanced is it when you have EVERY female being sexualised. Also, Rig actually looks cool in atleast 4-5 of those costumes. Ein looks like an idiot in almost all of them.

EDIT: My point is they would rather pick on 1-2 characters, then actually do a rotation of sexualising each male. I honestly wouldn't mind the slutty costumes of more characters got them and not just Ein/Rig. They're limiting sales and the fanbase of those characters by doing this.

 

[Tyaren]

That cop outfit still cracks me up.
Between
A) Rig always looks piles up to begin with
And
B) there a no undershirt or vest or anything under that button up

Its totally obvious that's a stripper costume not a cop costume lol

I was actually at first contemplating if I post the cop costume too since it actually covers most of him up...but it still looks so sleazy and slutty on him that I had to. It's definitely a stripper costume! XD

Edit:

Two characters out of what? 14-15? it's not exactly balanced is it when you have EVERY female being sexualised. Also, Rig actually looks cool in atleast 4-5 of those costumes. Ein looks like an idiot in almost all of them.

Believe me, you are going to miss Ein in his slutty, idiotic costumes...when there's no Ein in DOA6. >__>

EDIT: My point is they would rather pick on 1-2 characters, then actually do a rotation of sexualising each male. I honestly wouldn't mind the slutty costumes of more characters got them and not just Ein/Rig.

But they do! Every male character has at least one, most have two or three costumes that can be regarded as fanservicey or sexualized. Don't make me go through the costume list and show you... >__<
Yes, the women have way more. But it isn't as black and white as people often make it out to be. After the Fighter DLC (which imho isn't sexy at all, is it?) the guys got lots of additional other fanservicey/sexualized stuff. So it's really not as if Team Ninja completely gave it up.

Edit 2:
Hayate for example has also quite a lot sexy outfits (I wonder why that is! XD):

 

[Chapstick]

Ein's incubus would look better with more uh...subtlety.. But I do think it's somewhat hot.

I find the fighter dlc to be sexy on Bayman, Rig, and Zack and to a lesser extent Hayabusa. The majority of it is ehh

Rig and Bass's cop outfits absolutely count as sexual, they play on the symbol of authority/uniform fetishes hard.

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

I was actually at first contemplating if I post the cop costume too since it actually covers most of him up...but it still looks so sleazy and slutty on him that I had to. It's definitely a stripper costume! XD

Edit:


Believe me, you are going to miss Ein in his slutty, idiotic costumes...when there's no Ein in DOA6. >__>



But they do! Every male character has at least one, most have two or three costumes that can be regarded as fanservicey or sexualized. Don't make me go through the costume list and show you... >__<
Yes, the women have way more. But it isn't as black and white as people often make it out to be. After the Fighter DLC (which imho isn't sexy at all, is it?) the guys got lots of additional other fanservicey/sexualized stuff. So it's really not as if Team Ninja completely gave it up.

Edit 2:
Hayate for example has also quite a lot sexy outfits (I wonder why that is! XD):

Most of those aren't actually sexualized in the manner of Ein/Rig though just showing off some arm or whatever. I'm talking about trashy costumes like Eins halloween 13/15 and borderline stripper gear.

And please stop with the "you'll miss the slutty costumes in doa6 cuz ein won't be in it" talk.... I really won't A. Its obvious he'll be cut and B. I've already accepted that as fact, why do you think I've been rocking Hitomi lately? Lol

 

[Sammy-Fu]

Believe me, you are going to miss Ein in his slutty, idiotic costumes...when there's no Ein in DOA6. >__>

I for one will not miss Ein.

The more original characters they add, the less they have to rely on blatant copy paste laziness. I thought the same about Leon back in DOA4 as well but it's less obvious these days that he is just a Bayman copy and paste.

Besides, Ein won't be gone.....because we have Hayate!


Ein is Hayate so there is literally no getting around to it, the dude has got to go at some point. Should have been an alternate outfit to begin with but nevermind, the roster is expanding for once since DOA2 (Not actually since DOA2 but i like to exaggerate) It can only get better from here on out......

I hope.

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Please, no more Kasumi Clones.

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I'm fucking begging you.

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My life is shit!

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*Cries*

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

I for one will not miss Ein.

The more original characters they add, the less they have to rely on blatant copy paste laziness. I thought the same about Leon back in DOA4 as well but it's less obvious these days that he is just a Bayman copy and paste.

Besides, Ein won't be gone.....because we have Hayate!


Ein is Hayate so there is literally no getting around to it, the dude has got to go at some point. Should have been an alternate outfit to begin with but nevermind, the roster is expanding for once since DOA2 (Not actually since DOA2 but i like to exaggerate) It can only get better from here on out......

I hope.

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Please, no more Kasumi Clones.

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I'm fucking begging you.

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My life is shit!

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*Cries*

Bringing a character back is copy paste laziness? You can literally say the same for majority of the cast. Even novelist wise Ein was the original and plays different to both Hitomi and Hayate, also you main Honoka... Who is completely based on a copy paste moveset.

Also, Ein and Hayate ate completely different characters, same guy physically yes but Ein has a completely different attitude and personality compared to Hayate it just wouldn't be the same. Anyway this thread isn't about that.

 

[Sammy-Fu]

Bringing a character back is copy paste laziness? You can literally say the same for majority of the cast. Even novelist wise Ein was the original and plays different to both Hitomi and Hayate, also you main Honoka... Who is completely based on a copy paste moveset.

I was not talking about moveset whatsoever, there is literally zero effort in Ein's character model.

Zero.

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

What do you expect? He's a younger amnesiac Hayate is he supposed to magically look completely different?

 

[Argentus]

I was not talking about moveset whatsoever, there is literally zero effort in Ein's character model.

Zero.

Yeah with the clones you'd think they'd at least give them a different hairstyle, but did they REALLY need to clone Kasumi's ponytail as well?

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

Anyway Eins model is actually different to Hayates, he's lighter in ski tone and his facial features aren't as prominent as Hayate's are.

If I had to guess Ein uses an early model for Hayate that would have otherwise been scrapped.

 

[Sammy-Fu]

Yeah with the clones you'd think they'd at least give them a different hairstyle, but did they REALLY need to clone Kasumi's ponytail as well?

Kasumi clones are the worst, lol. I can accept Alpha 152 because the character is made of jello and while she is a clone she's not TOTALLY copy and paste....Phase 4 is just the worst though, lol.

Phase 4 is just Kasumi with a hood. x,D

 

[Tyaren]

And please stop with the "you'll miss the slutty costumes in doa6 cuz ein won't be in it" talk.... I really won't A. Its obvious he'll be cut and B. I've already accepted that as fact, why do you think I've been rocking Hitomi lately? Lol

 

[Sammy-Fu]

Anyway Eins model is actually different to Hayates, he's lighter in ski tone and his facial features aren't as prominent as Hayate's are.

If I had to guess Ein uses an early model for Hayate that would have otherwise been scrapped.

OMFG, I'm so stupid....I just realized that your main character is Ein. (I know i'm a moron) I didn't mean to be THAT insensitive, i'm usually outspoken on my thoughts and i forget that a lot of people have favourites that i'm ribbing.

I hope you can forgive me, i wasn't calling your favourite character "Bad" or "Shit" by any means i just came to the conclusion that since Ein IS Hayate they can't really do much for the character model to change him. I mean, if they changed his physical appearance i wouldn't have said anything...

but yeah, I shouldn't try to justify what i said, I'm sorry if i annoyed you by saying stuff like that in any way, i'm not the brightest bulb in the box, that's for sure.

 

[UpSideDownGRUNT]

Dude! STAHP!

I played vanilla 5 without Ein perfectly fine... DOA6 won't be any different besides if he isn't in the game it means he won't get shitty dlcs that are like bad male stripper themes.

 

[Tyaren]

Dude! STAHP!

I played vanilla 5 without Ein perfectly fine... DOA6 won't be any different besides if he isn't in the game it means he won't get shitty dlcs that are like bad male stripper themes.

By the way, have you proof (like a direct comparison maybe) that Ein's model really differs from Hayate's?

Except that Ein misses a hair gloss shader for whatever reason (as you can notice above) I haven't found any real difference...
You can even see the slight indentation on Ein's forehead where usually the rim of Hayate's headband would be located.

 

[Project Bokuho]

inb4 we get off topic again and get the thread closed down.