Tekken

[Jadeinchains]

Yeah her fighting style looked really good I think I might actually use her now, Lol that would be strange if she actually turned out to be part cat I think she probably has some secret power though if in a bikini she still has who knows.

 

[KasumiLover]

I still can't believe she was negatively received, we have a pink hair android wielding chainsaws, a dancing rich socialite, animals, AND robots fighting against human opponents who can launch people twice their weight, yet LC is where they draw the line...some people in the Tekken community are just ignorant. :-/

 

[Jadeinchains]

Yeah this series has had Kangaroo and a girl In an uncommon outfit is where people get annoyed?! I love the fact that the Tekken series has such crazy characters that you don't see in other fighting games, Hell Kuma used to be my main character before Lili. I say bring on the interesting out there characters because everyone's opinion is valid and if they think Chloe is stupid that's fine because theres other characters they surely will like and can go!

 

[KasumiLover]

Exactly, everyone doesn't have to hate someone and just want them gone, I like pretty much every tekken character...well except for Bryan, I don't like that winpose where he pounds Lili's face in, but I'm not saying get rid of him either. Tekken needs this diversity, it's what keeps the fights and game fresh

 

[Niitris]

It's because animals and robots are a different kind of weird with more universal appeal, not the same thing as otaku pandering girl.

That said, the backlash was just stupid, Chloe is barely any different from the other cute, teenage girls. People are just close-minded about what types of characters should be allowed in their Japanese anime games.

I will say that I don't like her default outfit, looks like they tried to mix 3 themes in one and it came out pretty bleh. But hey it if makes for effective trolling, I'm cool with it.

 

[KasumiLover]

It's because animals and robots are a different kind of weird with more universal appeal, not the same thing as otaku pandering girl.

That said, the backlash was just stupid, Chloe is barely any different from the other cute, teenage girls. People are just close-minded about what types of characters should be allowed in their Japanese anime games.

I will say that I don't like her default outfit, looks like they tried to mix 3 themes in one and it came out pretty bleh. But hey it if makes for effective trolling, I'm cool with it.

I'm not too fond of her default either, she looks much better in the evening dress and the coat plus hot pants combo

 

[DestructionBomb]

I still can't believe she was negatively received, we have a pink hair android wielding chainsaws, a dancing rich socialite, animals, AND robots fighting against human opponents who can launch people twice their weight, yet LC is where they draw the line...some people in the Tekken community are just ignorant. :-/

Of course the character was negatively received, it's not a bad feedback but rather an honest one towards the character and gimmick behind it. There is a huge factor here in regards to character design. Lucky Chloe was a character to appeal to a certain fan base and not the entire fan base. The majority of the fan base (especially Tekken) is not within that certain fan base, it's the vast majority. To be blunt, I can understand why the Tekken community feels that way.

Tekken however deserved to get hit with that since the community is a complete clusterfuck of not figuring out exactly what they want. Even if they did, Harada will just tell you to just deal with it and that he was bored making the character and he'll apologize for making the character when he stops making games (Which is unknown for how long that will be.).

What is difficult for games is making a character to appeal to both crowds (if not, all types of crowd) but that would be far too perfect, even for this game. So they could of made a character that appeal to the 'main' mass but instead, they chose not to and wanted to apply something of what seems to be a local trend just to boost sales yet Lucky Chloe on itself was a terrible idea for the concept in mind. What they could of done (If they wanted this type of character.) is make it much more different "but not exactly following the trend behind it.". The voice acting was clearly a mistake, but since Harada is a troll he let it go because he knows it wounds the ears of everyone. Shit if I was in his shoes, I would of done the same thing except not as cringeful. If I wanted to troll, I'd do it in such a fashion that would give me wound points for each wound but the dislike wouldn't be as bad.

 

[KasumiLover]

Of course the character was negatively received, it's not a bad feedback but rather an honest one towards the character and gimmick behind it. There is a huge factor here in regards to character design. Lucky Chloe was a character to appeal to a certain fan base and not the entire fan base. The majority of the fan base (especially Tekken) is not within that certain fan base, it's the vast majority. To be blunt, I can understand why the Tekken community feels that way.

Tekken however deserved to get hit with that since the community is a complete clusterfuck of not figuring out exactly what they want. Even if they did, Harada will just tell you to just deal with it and that he was bored making the character and he'll apologize for making the character when he stops making games (Which is unknown for how long that will be.).

What is difficult for games is making a character to appeal to both crowds (if not, all types of crowd) but that would be far too perfect, even for this game. So they could of made a character that appeal to the 'main' mass but instead, they chose not to and wanted to apply something of what seems to be a local trend just to boost sales yet Lucky Chloe on itself was a terrible idea for the concept in mind. What they could of done (If they wanted this type of character.) is make it much more different "but not exactly following the trend behind it.". The voice acting was clearly a mistake, but since Harada is a troll, he let it go because he knows it wounds the ears of everyone. Shit, if I was in his shoes, I would of done the same thing, except not as cringeful.

Yeah, and I saw angry tweets literally even saying those who play DOA will probably like the character XD But they could have done the concept way less...generic, if that's the right word. I love LC, but there's no avoiding the fact that her design isn't as unique as you'd think, she actually had a different concept outfit where she looked more like a fighter, but now...not so much. XD

 

[DestructionBomb]

Yeah, and I saw angry tweets literally even saying those who play DOA will probably like the character XD But they could have done the concept way less...generic, if that's the right word. I love LC, but there's no avoiding the fact that her design isn't as unique as you'd think, she actually had a different concept outfit where she looked more like a fighter, but now...not so much. XD

I still think the character is extremely lame and an excuse to follow a trend to make someone's ears hurt, but the Tekken community deserved to get hit with that anyway so it's karma. Pretty sure he was trolling though when he made the character, honestly I would of done the same thing...except much much different.

 

[Tyaren]

Also karma...?

Spoiler

 

[KasumiLover]

Also karma...?

Spoiler

I love those costumes! What is it though, like some sort of collaboration?

I still think the character is extremely lame and an excuse to follow a trend to make someone's ears hurt, but the Tekken community deserved to get hit with that anyway so it's karma. Pretty sure he was trolling though when he made the character, honestly I would of done the same thing...except much much different.

I think a guest artist designed her, he probably told him to design someone as controversial as possible, thus LC was born. XD But honestly, every new character so far in T7 has had some complaints, like I don't like Shaheen or Kazumi, their concepts are just boring imo...PB would probably blow a gasket if he saw me diss Kazumi. XD

 

[Niitris]

Harada didn't do it to troll, he did it because Japan likes idols. And he likes idols, it's no secret that he has a liking towards the Idolmaster. And it's a thing that the average fg fan doesn't like. Nothing wrong with that, but not every character is made to appeal to everyone. Simple as that.
I like the colab costumes, they look cute and fun.

 

[KasumiLover]

Oh guys, here's the concept of how LC was actually supposed to look...I don't know why they changed it. She looked great here:

She actually looks like a serious fighter, and I like how they kept the pigtails.

 

[DestructionBomb]

Harada didn't do it to troll, he did it because Japan likes idols. And he likes idols, it's no secret that he has a liking towards the Idolmaster. And it's a thing that the average fg fan doesn't like. Nothing wrong with that, but not every character is made to appeal to everyone. Simple as that.
I like the colab costumes, they look cute and fun.

Harada himself did say he was trolling (Or in his word, joking) joking = minor trolling when he made the character via twitter. - http://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN (@RT I was joking to make character but she is there now ok?)

He also made a post with people complaining about the game's netcode with the previous versions and him mentioning that it is near impossible to create a game with perfect connection and proper bandwidth to play against other players (Which he is correct, same with DOA which I also believe won't have supreme latency reduction and input delays to be removed completely in upcoming games, we live in a time where lag will still be a thing for years). I can assure you that if he wanted to make an idol, he would do it sober except he chose not to because it is delicious to spite and I would of done the same. It's not because it's the "Average Fighting Game Fan doesn't like." It's the -Majority- of them, which Tekken is full of. Harada expected you to laugh with him when he made Lucky Chloe (Same situation when he made Gon on Tekken), not laugh against him.

I find the character pretty low, however I am not against the removal of the character (which the Tekken community wants her to be gone for good and these guys speak loud.)

The problem here, is that it's easy to just accept everything being thrown at an individual into believing with what's true to their eyes and not particularly digging deep into reasoning. What they could of done is create a character to appeal to all the crowds, yet that is also impossible because you will always find an individual(s) to not like what the character is about because of their own type of taste, however they chose the route (especially for Tekken) where only a certain fan base will understand, which is a side where it's not entirely big..but it spreads and turns big because majority of the individuals are forced to accept it. Not against the character, however I am not a fan of indoctrination and shoving concepts down our throats because it's a local trend.

 

[Niitris]

Of course it was a joke, she's a exaggerated depiction of an idol. I'm not sure how anyone can consider someone like her to be serious. And yeah he knew what reaction it'd get and decided that he was gonna have fun with the outrage. It'd be naive to believe otherwise.

Following trends is what every game does and has done. Tekken isn't any different. Kaz is the go to Karate guy. Nina's the 90s blonde action girl. Law is Bruce Lee. Lei is Jackie Chan. It was trendy to make fighting archetypes in the 90s. Now it's fantasy. People just simply don't like the current trends which is fine.

Reason I can accept it is because ultimately, it's not a big deal. As long as the older guard is still around, nothing wrong with more modern characters.

 

[P2p1mbs]

Josie should have tape over her mouth.

If they just made her speak her native language or at the very least gave her a local accent, I'd be more accepting of her. That and replace her default outfit to something more casual.

 

[KasumiLover]

If they just made her speak her native language or at the very least gave her a local accent, I'd be more accepting of her. That and replace her default outfit to something more casual.

Her leather outfit get up she got a few months ago should have been her default TBH, it made her look way more like a casual fighter, coupled with her hair bow.

 

[Jadeinchains]

At first I thought her red bow messed up her leather outfit but I actually like that part of it now since it gives it the look of a 50's girlfriend of a greaser now. ( I love that decades fashion so I'm not sure how I didn't catch that! ) I hope despite Josie's default outfit that she has lots of clothes like the leather one in her customization's.

 

[KasumiLover]

I'm beginning to wonder, are these extra new outfits the fighters getting like the secret unlockable TTT2 3P outfits?

 

[Jadeinchains]

Which ones? The leather one?