The Nier: Automata Thread
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It's actually a AAA titled game. It's pretty good (so far), still yet to determine upon completion because there are a few in the forums that get a boner from just looking at pure visual point graphics. So far, story is starting to make some sense as this is one of the most important things overall in games that dive into it. Gameplay is pretty smooth and pretty expanse, though I can't make any final points on it until I truly finish the game. Judging it too early is pretty harsh, though for me to you, it's pretty fun so far.
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Oooh, you talking about @Tyaren? XD I see your point tho, may give it a shot in the future although atm my heart is set in Nier, Dat 2B and 9S tho XD
Not one of the users I had in mind, though if it's a user that glorifies graphics over the build of the game and story engagement then there you go. Has to be a balanced pace section to it all.
No one wants an ugly polygon game, that much is guaranteed, however it's difficult for consumers to accept a game where the story and gameplay is garbage no matter how much data bit graphic hull you put into it.
No one wants an ugly polygon game, that much is guaranteed, however it's difficult for consumers to accept a game where the story and gameplay is garbage no matter how much data bit graphic hull you put into it.
True that, It's like how I play DOA5 since the graphics and story and gameplay are imo great and the same can be said for T7 as a whole too, look how far they came!
But yeah back on topic, I think Nier has some pretty good graphics, aside from somde clipping from 9S the artstyle is really up my alley!
Clipping in games is a bit minor. People nitpick on such things far too heavily. If it's "awful clipping" where it becomes static and uncontrollable, then I can agree with those types of changes for edit because it can look terrible or distracting. Move a character too close to a wall and his arm goes through it, can they fix it? Probably, but it's not a main focus for a desirable fix when it isn't affecting sales for them to care.
Some games have feet clip through the ground when going up a hill. Is it a major issue? No. You can still climb that hill though and likely won't see that hill ever again.
Some games have feet clip through the ground when going up a hill. Is it a major issue? No. You can still climb that hill though and likely won't see that hill ever again.
Argentus
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people also say grand theft auto and call of duty are "Awesome", but I like to think I have really good taste for not being into those.
Anyways, I'll try it out at some point, because yeah its pretty, but I just haven't seen anything gameplay wise to catch my interest. Seriously, I've asked and looked it up and i've never been able to see or have anyone tell me anything specific about the gameplay in horizon dawn. just "You have a bow" and "You can craft". Saw in one of Tyaren's posts that there's zelda style dungeon puzzles but that's about it.
i'll try watching a stream when i'm back next week.
HZD should've had a playable demo like NIER, so I can try it out.
Are you honestly trying to throw shade, even though I took my time yesterday to explain to you why Horizon is such a good game without mentioning it's graphics at all?
A couple of things, also @DestructionBomb:
First of all, since I am an artist and designer (I have an actual uni degree) when I talk about graphics/visuals of a game I am foremost talking about the art and design aspect of it and to a lesser extent of the pure technical aspect. There's nothing wrong about loving video games for their beautiful art. Video games are art. A well done execution of this art needs good tech, so there is a mutual relation to these two aspects of graphics/visuals.
Secondly, graphics are the video in video game. It's in the name and definition. Without graphics no video game.
If some people knew a bit of game creation, they knew that the visual aspect of a video game is in fact equally import to the gameplay aspect of a game and it is in fact the visuals, that developers, artists and designers usually spend the most time, money and effort on when creating a game.
I seriously have to shake my head at people who don't realize this. Seriously, it's right in front of our eyes when we play. We can't play anything at all without it.
Last but not least, Nier Automata is definitely not a AAA game:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AAA_(video_game_industry)
AAA games are games with a very high production value, development costs and promotion. Few games receive this enorm attention, trust and push from publishers. AAA games are synonymous to the term blockbuster in the movie industry.
Nier, even if it is a great game, but that matters not in this classification, is not a AAA game. Not by a mile. The fact that it is a JRPG, a niche genre, already almost disqualifies it. The only two AAA JRPGs to release in recent years were Final Fantasy XV, which was a huge money dump for a decade, and Pokemon Sun/Moon, mostly for the promotion part.
Square Enix's current and upcoming AAA games are considered:
-Final Fantasy XV
-Kingdom Hearts III
-FFVII Remake
-Dragon Quest XI
-Tomb Raider
-Hitman
-Deus Ex
If you want to read up on this and gather some information:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/396...iple-aaa-releases-boost-profits-triple-digits
https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/02/05/square-enix-major-change-disney-marvel/
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Ummmmm, no I was not >.> I thought he was subbing you playfully since you love graphics which I completely understand as I do as well, so I playfully tagged you is all, PB does it all the time to Grunt and Force does it all the time to me, I didn't mean anything by it xD my opinion of you is completely different than what others think and my opinion of you is positive, plus I don't throw shade XD, didn't you see how I @ed you, I'm that way when I call out people. I'm kinda more open when I'm coming for someone, and I wasn't coming for you at all...
Like I said the graphics look amazing but the gameplay doesn't really get me at this point, I find it more interesting to watch and see screenshots from others than to actually play it, but hopefully whenever I get extra money I can at least try it for myself.
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You may have meant this in a playful way (Grunt and Bokuho too...probably.
), but after your comment Destruction was like: I didn't actually have him in mind, but if he's that type of person, then yes. That irritated me. I don't get any "boners" from gushing purely at tech, I'd like to believe I am not that shallow.Also, I really have to ask, because you said something like this some time ago:
What's that supposed to mean...?
I mean some people may dislike you, not everyone here on FSD will like one person. XD I'm pretty sure plenty of people hate me or get annoyed by me but I don't care, I didn't join to be liked. I'm open about my perversions and about how bubbly I am. I remember there was actually a time when I didn't like Grunt or you, but that was mainly due to disagreements and misunderstanding on my part. I personally like your personality, all I meant is that basically I'm amongst the other several people who like you, I can't say the same for say Wazaaa or that weird Kasumi wife guy who I had to clap back at, and I especially HATE that one guy ALYCONE, he brung out my inner dick when he tried to come for YBNDM, I had to give that mutt a little kick to make him behave XD and I midly dislike Cooking Mama but only because they've shown they didn't particularly like me either.You may have meant this in a playful way (Grunt and Bokuho too...probably.
Also, I really have to ask, because you said it some time ago:
What's that supposed to mean...?
And I'm sure he didn't mean it like that, he was just exaggerating like how Hayabusiness once said I get boners from outfits that show ass and skin and have heels >.>(I can only imagine how harsh she'd be if she discovered I liked Eliot and Jacky...) That's not me at all, although I honestly get a bit bothered if something hot I like is on my screen.
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Argentus
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You may have meant this in a playful way (Grunt and Bokuho too...probably.
Also, I really have to ask, because you said something like this some time ago:
What's that supposed to mean...?
dude its playfully ribbing at you. You may not mean to come across that way, but you ARE known as the guy who cares about graphics and tech specs above all else, almost to the point of disregarding actual gameplay in judging a game's quality.
But don't take that as an insult. We all know you take graphics super seriously and as an artist appreciate it more than others. We just tease the shit out of you for focusing SOLELY on graphics lol.
Hyperbole much?
Argentus
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no....not really no haha. You have literally shut down talks of actual gameplay before because it wasn't a discussion of just the graphics. And gotten mad at me for not being impressed with graphics. etc etc.
Like I said, it may not be what you mean, but it is how you come across. Not faulting you for it, we all have our vices, like I'm big on creative character design and hate the shit out of overwatch for its standard generic characters but that doesn't bother other people, its just something I'm concerned with.
UpSideDownGRUNT
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I couldn't care less if Automata is AAA or not, I admittedly actually prefer that it isn't AAA.
Some of the best games I've ever played aren't AAA and never will be AAA, or atleast not in the west: including Yakuza 5 & Zero, Devil May Cry, Nights of Azure and more recently Tales of Berseria. NieR Automata is an Action JRPG with an explorable world, side quests and gameplay from the designer of Metal Gear Rising and Bayonetta.
You don't even need a PS4 Pro or PC to enjoy it in 60FPS meaning you can evade cancel strings and perfect evade your way to victory on any platform. If that isn't enough you can get a game over by unequipping your protags fucking Operating System...
That's basically an automatic 8/10 from me right there on it's own.
Some of the best games I've ever played aren't AAA and never will be AAA, or atleast not in the west: including Yakuza 5 & Zero, Devil May Cry, Nights of Azure and more recently Tales of Berseria. NieR Automata is an Action JRPG with an explorable world, side quests and gameplay from the designer of Metal Gear Rising and Bayonetta.
You don't even need a PS4 Pro or PC to enjoy it in 60FPS meaning you can evade cancel strings and perfect evade your way to victory on any platform. If that isn't enough you can get a game over by unequipping your protags fucking Operating System...
That's basically an automatic 8/10 from me right there on it's own.
Argentus
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waaayyyyyyy too open about your fetishes XD.
You're not an open book, you're a vegas billboard!
same. I love stylish action.
Plus i'm super burnt out on "open world games". usually its "Go anywhere....do nothing in particular". Just a lot of empty space to pad out play time with how long it takes to travel between points.
like in metal gear solid v i wind up just straight skipping the open world aspect by directly extracting by chopper to wherever I need to go. no point wandering the wilderness because THERES NOTHING THERE.
The thing is, you paint all open worlds with one brush (as you do with artstyles that you personally don't like), for example Horizon. You came yesterday into that thread to shit-post, which was clear as day, and you didn't even care to inquire before what the game was about and what it looked like.
Horizon actually has a very dense and painstakingly detailed world. The developers in fact actively took great care to avoid creating a too big and empty world.
Later in the artstyle and graphics thread you acted all surprised, that it looked actually quite carefully crafted on screens.
Nier: Automata is by the way an open world too, in case you didn't know...but in contrast to Horizon it actually features the vast and completely deserted areas that you don't like. At least inform yourself, please.
Here's by the way a great in-depth review of Nier: Automata:
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