Leifang for a total newbie / DoA theory?

[referee]

Hi there. I am a really bad player. I am more of the thinking time and this thing requires a quick reaction time, I think. However, I love Leifang. In the very small amount of times I've played any game of the series, I've always picked her. But I'm just mashing, and this might have worked on Street Fighter, but not anymore.

I don't want to become top of the world, just learn to use Our Cherised Cheeky Chinese Chick (yay for alliteration!) to a decent level. It is OK to lose, but being a 'Greats for Everyone' dude is a totally different thing, hehe.

My questions are many. How does people learn those 100+ moves? And the 100+ moves from the other characters? Or is that not necessary? I'd say you need to know who you are fighting against and adapt accordingly, right?

Is Leifang an unrecommended character to someone that, to all effects, hasn't played any fighting games? (Not regularly since the first Mortal Kombat, IIRC). How would you suggest a learning procedure? I love the several discussions here, but they tend to be rather technical, talking about frames, and safeness of a certain move, or things like that, that are very interesting, but maybe a bit hard to grasp the importance for an outsider like me. You talk of a certain move or combo doing 60 damage, but how much is full health? It's this sort of technical data that I'm missing and am interested in.

I'm more of a theorist, so a detailed explanation of all these technical things (that maybe are second nature to you guys, I don't know) would be very attractive to me if I manage to not drown in the sea of information.

I'm hoping for great useful info for what seem very good players out there with a lot of knowledge. Even if I only get to play occasionally, with my friends, not tournament scene or the like, or even if I just get a lot of theory to learn and discuss, this thread will have achieved its goal.

Final question: Can you hate Jann Lee and still call yourself a Leifang fan? I think Jann Lee is quite an arrogant guy, boasting about how strong he is, how worthless you are if you are weak, and pretty much centering his universe on himself. Leifang can do much better than end with him, IMHO.

That's it for now. Sorry for the wall of text, and thank you for the time you take to reply to this.

 

[NightAntilli]

Leifang is one of the hardest characters to play properly, despite her tools being very effective. You can still learn her, it will take a bit of time.. And yes, it is recommended to learn every single move. Not only for yourself, but also when other opponents use her, so you know what to do. For starters, go through the move list before and after you play, every single time. It won't be long before you know them.

As for hating Jann Lee, go ahead. I hate him too, and love Leifang. I always fall for girls who like a**h*les xD

 

[referee]

Do you recommend the Prima guide, or will it have incorrect / incomplete data now?

 

[Lobo]

Leifang didn't get too many major changes with the new patch, but I still wouldn't suggest the guide at this point, because of the changes to the rest of the cast.

One of the reasons why Leifang is so hard to play is because she is very much a reaction/defensive-based char, which means you have to not only learn Leifang, but pretty much have a working knowledge on the rest of the cast as well.

But, once you do learn her, you're going to be giving your opponent fits.

I would say your best bet is to keep lurking around here for info - myself and a lot of other Lei players would be glad to help. But if you do have some extra money, then the guide can never hurt. Even though the movelists/frame data will be outdated, it will still have relevant strategies on how to play each char.

 

[Awesmic]

Leifang didn't get too many major changes with the new patch, but I still wouldn't suggest the guide at this point, because of the changes to the rest of the cast.

One of the reasons why Leifang is so hard to play is because she is very much a reaction/defensive-based char, which means you have to not only learn Leifang, but pretty much have a working knowledge on the rest of the cast as well.

But, once you do learn her, you're going to be giving your opponent fits.

I would say your best bet is to keep lurking around here for info - myself and a lot of other Lei players would be glad to help. But if you do have some extra money, then the guide can never hurt. Even though the movelists/frame data will be outdated, it will still relevant strategies on how to play each char.

The guide will not tell you about John Cena tactics though...

Mid kick hold + Faint Stun Resets = U Can't See Me.

 

[Lobo]

The guide will not tell you about John Cena tactics though...

Mid kick hold + Faint Stun Resets = U Can't See Me.

Those are sick. Unfortunately, between lag online, and the tendency for the game to screw up 46/64 inputs, they are sometimes hard to get consistently, and something I definitely wouldn't consider a beginner.

Plus, I think with the new patch they are changing up the properties for back turn stuns. Couple that with the fact that they are reducing the frames to follow up after her feint stun, and I think we will see those resets disappear.

Still, her mid kick hold should be feared.

 

[Awesmic]

Plus, I think with the new patch they are changing up the properties for back turn stuns. Couple that with the fact that they are reducing the frames to follow up after her feint stun, and I think we will see those resets disappear.

There goes Christie's possibility of a faint stun from her p+k against a character in BT.