d3v
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Except modern consoles are just PCs inside. XBone's specs are very similar to the PS4 with the exception of the PS4 using GDDR5 and the XBone using DDR3 (and the possibility that the XBone will only allow 5GB for games).
Xbox-One Revealed
- Thread starter GeomighT
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"We're going to force another thing down consumers' throats."
RhythmikDesigns
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PS4 definitely looks like it will be the choice for dedicated games, but I'll throw this out there; The PS4 has said it will play used game, but that doesn't mean that PS4 won't have a similar feature when it comes to used games.
I made a suggestion last night on IGN, where if this is definitely true all MS (and Sony if they have a similar feature) has to do to soften the blow of this is make a "loan" feature where the owner of game loan games to his friends. Some of the requirements could be:
1. The loanee must be on the owner's friends list.
2. While the game is on loan, the owner cannot play the game on his/her or anyone else's One.
3. The owner can set a time frame of how long the loanee can borrow the game, and can "unloan" the game at anytime.
I made a suggestion last night on IGN, where if this is definitely true all MS (and Sony if they have a similar feature) has to do to soften the blow of this is make a "loan" feature where the owner of game loan games to his friends. Some of the requirements could be:
1. The loanee must be on the owner's friends list.
2. While the game is on loan, the owner cannot play the game on his/her or anyone else's One.
3. The owner can set a time frame of how long the loanee can borrow the game, and can "unloan" the game at anytime.
Game Over
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Saber
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Having to connect once a day online to Xbox Live to be able to play your games, having to pay a freaking fee to play games borrowed from a friend, not showing any exclusives (they could be saving that for E3, so understandable)...
This just makes my head spin why Microsoft is going down this direction.
Sure, the idea that installing games on the HDD and not requiring a disc anymore sounds good...in theory. Not in practice. The idea of having to pay a fee to play a game your friend has already paid for is even worse than the Online Pass. At least without the Online Pass, the game is still playable. Games requiring a mandatory install would not only become tedious, but annoying.
The fact that we would have to connect to Live once a day is still annoying. Some of us don't have the luxury of Wi-fi or broadband connection because of where we live, and if it so happens the connection is out for a while, we can't play ANY games at all.
Gaming consoles are not meant to be TVs. They're meant to be for playing games to cater to gamers first before anything else.
This just makes my head spin why Microsoft is going down this direction.
Sure, the idea that installing games on the HDD and not requiring a disc anymore sounds good...in theory. Not in practice. The idea of having to pay a fee to play a game your friend has already paid for is even worse than the Online Pass. At least without the Online Pass, the game is still playable. Games requiring a mandatory install would not only become tedious, but annoying.
The fact that we would have to connect to Live once a day is still annoying. Some of us don't have the luxury of Wi-fi or broadband connection because of where we live, and if it so happens the connection is out for a while, we can't play ANY games at all.
Gaming consoles are not meant to be TVs. They're meant to be for playing games to cater to gamers first before anything else.
Julius Rage
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It's like Microsoft and Nintendo don't like making money anymore!
Game Over
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Stocks are finnicky matters to follow anyway, outside of those with insider information. Nonetheless, it was certainly interesting timing.
Just saw this on IGN, funny stuff!!
Some Dude Commenting on IGN said:Score: Xbox-1 Playstation-4
That's at least funny.
Just figured I'd point out what a lot of the fanboys are choosing to ignore right now. MS did plenty to shoot themselves in the foot but the PS4 reveal was also pretty terrible in general. I will say in retrospect that Sony did MUCH better than MS but they both blew chunks. I'm hoping for some pretty incredible games at E3 on both sides. MS because I want to love their new creation and Sony because I want a good alternative if necessary lol.
Just figured I'd point out what a lot of the fanboys are choosing to ignore right now. MS did plenty to shoot themselves in the foot but the PS4 reveal was also pretty terrible in general. I will say in retrospect that Sony did MUCH better than MS but they both blew chunks. I'm hoping for some pretty incredible games at E3 on both sides. MS because I want to love their new creation and Sony because I want a good alternative if necessary lol.
GeomighT
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Having to always find an internet connection in 24 Hrs notice of leaving my home will be virtually impossible it being offline means i can't take this console out for the Weekend to hang at a buddy's house , the future is going backwards? damn i wont even be able to take my console on my ski trips to while im snowboarding w/ friends n family ,
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Game Over
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I'm in the position of already planning to buy a PS4 at some time (not necessarily at launch), and currently giving zero f***s about Xbox One. Microsoft needs to give me a VERY good reason (like a BADASS Killer Instinct 3, dedicated servers on all XBL games, etc) to buy their console, and so far, their offerings are all LOLs.
Koompbala
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I been calling that a fine everywhere. If I got to pay full price twice for something that I can hold in my hand that is a fine.
Game Over
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Essentially, the idea is like having to purchase a non-transferable "product key" to use a version of Microsoft software.
The market ms is targeting theoretically should net them more "ca$h" than catering to a niche core market. This target audience won't know or care about the issues raised here. I believe MS It's under the belief that with the Kinect they can succeed where Nintendo failed with the Wii-mote.
Technically, you are only paying once. It's only twice if you are buying it for your friends account, if you bring your account to your friend's house as well then you don't have to pay the "fine" as long as you're logged in on your account.
Still shitty either way, but it's just the current XBLA ruleset being applied to every game.
Julius Rage
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Gamestop employees aren't stupid and kids are smart so if kids tell their parents I want a PS4 then that's what they'll get.
This will sell we'll early during the holidays but once used games become a talking point then MS is fucked.
Hardcore gamers paying attention to gaming sites and blogs are a large number with a loud voice but a pretty minor part of the install base. I also think it'll sell well initially anyway, but who knows if it'll have legs. Developers likely love the idea of no used games without more money coming in so I think initial support from the big dev houses will be strong. User adoption will make or break it long term.
5GB for games has been confirmed
Digital Foundry's Xbox One Spec analysis
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one